[2. Discuss and take action on the purchase of Tyler Technologies software for the Justices of the Peace, and Constables, and for Enterprise Justice Software as a Service Migration, and approve the contract with Tyler Technologies.]

>> COMMISSIONER? >> YES.

-- TO READ FROM YOUR NOTES. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF TYLER TECHNOLOGIES SOFTWARE FOR THE JUSTICES OF THE PEACE, AND CONSTABLES, AND FOR ENTERPRISE JUSTICE SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE MIGRATION, AND APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. I'M SORRY.

>> CURRENTLY, THE CONTRACT IS STILL BEING NEGOTIATED WITH THE ATTORNEYS. WE DID GET A FINAL PRICE OF WHAT THE TOTAL PROJECT WOULD BE, AND THAT IS 1,758,000 AND $80.

>> , 1.758008? >> YES, SIR.

>> BETTALKED ABOUT THIS WITH JAY AND VERONICA LAST WEEK AND REALIZED THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE CONTRACT FINALIZED, BUT IN ORDER TO ENCUMBER THE FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR, VERONICA SAID IF WE HAD AN APPROPRIATE MOTION STATING SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THE SOFTWARE AND CONTINUE WORKING ON THE CONTRACT, THEN THERE CAN BE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR IT AND ENCUMBER THE FUNDS.

>> PRETTY MUCH, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A P.O. RIGHT NOW, UNTIL WE HAVE THE CONTRACT. HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN CONTIN

GENERALS? >> 2.874.190.

I MEAN, I THOUGHT THAT THE PURCHASE ORDER NEEDED TO BE TODAY, BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR, AND IT NEEDED TO BE ORDERED TODAY. I THOUGHT IT NEEDED TO BE ORDER.

>> WE CAN'T ORDER IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT, SO...

>> COME ON DOWN, CHRISTY. >> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH VERONICA IS SHE NEW THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE

THE CONTRACT. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS, SO THERE'S NO STRICT DEADLINE ON THAT PORTION OF IT. IT DOES NEED TO BE -- YEAH, IT DOES NEED TO BE ENCUMBERED TODAY, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY

HAVE TO SEND THE PURCHASE ORDER. >> OKAY, WOULD THE MOTION TO BE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THIS SOFTWARE PENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE COURT, SO COME BACK TO US TO APPROVE IT. AND DO WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

>> THAT HAS TO BE IN THERE. >> COULD WE SAY "OUT OF

CONTINGENCY? >> YES.

>> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, OR ME?

>> YOU DROP IT, BECAUSE YOU'VE TAKEN NOTES.

>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT TOTAL PRICE I GAVE Y'ALL SHOULD BE WHAT THE TOTAL PRICE OF THE PURCHASE SHOULD BE.

>> PERFECT. I MAKE THE MOTION TO PURCHASE FROM TYLER TECHNOLOGY FOR 1.758 -- ACTUALLY, 1,.758.080

OUT OF CONTINGENCY. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLELA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HALL.

ALL IN FAVOR? NAYS?

[3. Discuss and take action on a quote from Motorola Solutions for the purchase of portable radios for Emergency Management.]

OKAY, THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL "YEA"S.

NUMBER 3. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON A QUOTE FROM MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS FOR THE PURCHASE OF PORTABLE

RADIOS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> JAY.

>> YES, AFTER ANIMAL CONTROL WAS MOVED OVER TO THEIR DIVISION.

THE MONEY IS BUDGETED. WE'RE JUST ASKING TO MAKE THAT

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PURCHASE. >>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO --DIFFICULTIES ] MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS FOR THE PURCHASE OF PORTABLE RADIOS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

JEWEALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES. >> BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER HIRED ALREADY AND THE NEXT ONE MONDAY, SO THIS HAS MADE A BIG

DIFFERENCE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JAY. >> OKAY.

[4. Discuss and take action approving Amendment to Commercial Contract between Midland County and Veteran Fabrication Inc for the purchase of real estate previously approved on September 8, 2026.]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION APPROVING AMENDMENT TO COMMERCIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN MIDLAND COUNTY AND VETERAN FABRICATION INC FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 8, 2026. ANDREW?

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF COURTS A.AGOOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TODAYE MADE THE CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF DISCREPANCIES WITH THE WAY WE MOTIONED IT, AND SO WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN THAT UP REGARDING WHO THE CHECK IS GOING TO, AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF ALL OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT WHICH REMOVES MONEY FROM THE CONTRACT AND INCLUDES IT IN THE BASE PRICE, RATHER THAN A TYPICAL ERNEST MONEY DEPOSIT.

SO THIS AMENDMENT, WITH APPROVAL, WILL CLEAN ALL THAT UP AND ALLOW US TO CLOSE TODAY AND PAY TOMORROW.

>> SO -- JUST TO CLARIFY: THERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THERE HAD BEEN A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDED SOME ADDITION LANGUAGE ABOUT DRIVEWAYS THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC. THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

>> OKAY. >> SO THE ONLY THING THIS IS DOING IS TAKE OUT THE EARNEST MONEY PAYMENT.

>> SO WE CAN APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED?

>> YES. >> OKAY.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMMERCIAL CONTRACT AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED AND APPROVE THE FUNDS OF 195,114 -- $15 TO BE PAID TO SECURE TITLE TEXAS LLC FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLELA. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, YEA?

[5. Discuss and take action approving the purchase of a 1.010 acre tract of land, more or less, out of Section 13, Block 40, T-2-S T&P RR Co. Survey as described in more detail in Exhibit A, attached to this agenda.]

THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 5.

DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF A 1.010 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, OUT OF SECTION 13, BLOCK 40, T-2-S T&P RR CO. SURVEY AS DESCRIBED IN MORE DETAIL IN EXHIBIT A, ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA.

>> SAME PROPERTY. THE ACT OF CLOSING, WHICH WAS -- ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THAT, IF YOU HAVE THOSE.

>> SO, ON THIS ONE, WE JUST HAVE TO APPROVE THE SIGNING OF THE

CLOSING DOCUMENTS AND -- >> THE WIRE TRANSFER.

>> AND THE WIRE TRANSFER. >> OKAY.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUDGE TO SIGN THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS AND THE WITH WIRE TRANSFER.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY

COMMISSIONER VILLELA. >> IN THE MOTION, CAN YOU REFER TO THE PROPERTY THAT'S -- OR CAN YOU GIVE OUT THE PROPERTY

DESCRIPTION THAT'S IN THE? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO TO BUY 1.010 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, OUT OF SECTION 13, BLOCK 40, T-2-S T&P RR CO. SURVEY AS DESCRIBED MORE OR LESS IN EXHIBIT 5 FOR 195- 195,115 TE PAID TO SECURE TEXAS LLC.

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? YEA? AGAINST, NAY?

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY U. >> AND THAT'S TODAY, RIGHT? ALL THAT HAPPENS TODAY AND WIRE TRANSFER TOMORROW?

>> CORRECT. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION TO

CLARIFY THAT? >> NO, I THINK THAT --

>> THAT SUFFICES? OKAY.

>> I'M SORRY. DID THE MOTION INCLUDE --

>> YES, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE WIRE INSTRUCTIONS.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, ANDREW.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG ON THE

[6. Discuss and take action on Task Work Order DUN2026-010 with Dunaway Associates, LLC for Precinct 3 road inventory and construction plan.]

AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 6: DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON TASK WORK ORDER DUN2026-010 WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES, LLC FOR PRECINCT 3 ROAD INVENTORY AND CONSTRUCTION PLAN. G.W.?

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>> OKAY. WE'VE ASKED DUNAWAY TO PROVIDE A PROPOSAL TO LOOK AT ALL OF PRECINCT 3 AND QUANTIFY THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROADS. AND SURVEY -- NOT SURVEY AS IN EXACT LOCATION IN THE WORLD, BUT JUST A SURVEY OF WHAT'S OUT THERE AND THE QUANTITIES THAT WN A PROJECTION OF WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE MORE VIABLE ROADS.

PRECINCT 3 IN WHOLE. >> BAKESFIELD JUST ABOUT WIPED

OUT -- >> YEAH.

>> I JUST LOST MY SCREEN. >> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE

MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO AWE PROVE APPROVETASK WORK ORDER DUN2026-010 WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES, LLC FOR PRECINCT 3 ROAD INVENTORY AND CONSTRUCTION

PLAN. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLELA.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HALL. ALL IN FAVOR, YEA? OPPOSED, NAY? THE MOTION PASSES.

>> OKAY. >> DO WE NEED TO HOLD THE NEXT TWO UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> THOSE ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE

DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT. >> AND WE DON'T HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY. OH, WE DO, YES.

>> WE DO HAVE. >> YOU CAN GO AHEAD -- YOU CAN STILL -- IF YOU DON'T -- YOU CAN STILL DO THESE TWO ITEMS AND APPROVE DOING A CONTRACT WITH THEM, BUT BEFORE ANY WORK STARTS, WE STILL NEED THE OTHER CONTRACT FROM THEM.

>> OKAY. I'LL MOTION GRANTING AN EXEMPTION TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING PURSUANT TO SECTION 262.024(A)(4) OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO IT CONSULTING.

>> JUDGE. YOU HAVEN'T CALLED THE ITEM, ACTUALLY.

>> OKAY.

[7. Discuss and take action granting an exemption to competitive bidding pursuant to Section 262.024(a)(4) of the Local Government Code for personal or professional services related to IT consulting.]

ITEM 7, PLEASE. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION GRANTING AN EXEMPTION TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING PURSUANT TO SECTION 262.024(A)(4) OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO IT CONSULTING.

COMMISSIONER HALL? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE ACTION GRANTING AN EXEMPTION TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING BIDDING PURSUANT TO SECTION 262.024(A)(4) OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO

IT CONSULTING. >> IF WE CAN JUST ADD IN A LITTLE BIT: BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT -- WHAT THE ANTICIPATED COSTS OF THIS WOULD BE, IT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE COMPETITIVE BIDDING, BUT A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE IS ONE OF THE EXEMPTIONS TO PROFESSIONAL BIDDING, SO THAT'S WHY, IN ORDER TO CHOOSE THIS ONE COMPANY, THE COURT GRANTS THIS EXCEPTION, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO AN RP OR --

>> CHARLES, WHAT IS THIS CONSULTANT? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ADD TO I.T.?

>> WE'RE TRYING TO -- THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. BECOME DOWN AND HELP JAY BECOME A BETTER MANAGER AND PLAN STUFF OUT.

>> SO IS THIS EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT OR IS THIS I.T.

DEVELOPMENT? >> I.T. DEVELOPMENT, OVERALL.

>> OKAY. >> YEAH, IS -- I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, SO I NEED CLARIFICATION ON WHEN WE GOT -- WHEN WE BOUGHT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES --

>> THIS IS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. >> WELL, THEN DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE A PERSON THAT YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH?

>> WE HAVE CYBER DONKEY. >> CYBER DONKEY.

>> YES, MA'AM. AFTER WE GOT THE AUDIT, WE REACHED OUT TO OUR CYBER CONSULTANT.

HE FIGURED OUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES ALREADY WITHOUT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY OR RFPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'VE REACHED SOME OF THOSE MILESTONES IN THE AUDIT. THE AUDIT DID HAVE TWO PIECES.

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IT HAD THE -- TO SEE IF WE'RE MEETING POLICY AND DOCUMENTS AND REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THAT, AND THERE WAS A SECONDARY PART THAT INVOLVED SALARY, STAFF, AND ALL THAT.

>> SO -- >> SOME OF THE AUDIT WAS -- AFTER THE AUDIT RESULTS WERE GIVEN, NOT ALL THE AUDIT RESULTS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COURT TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, SUCH AS SALARY OR EMPLOYEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE DID -- WE DID WHAT WE COULD WITH OUR CURRENT SERVICE, AND THAT'S WITH CYBER DONKEY. TO KNOCK THOSE OFF.

>> WHY DID YOU USE CYBER DONKEY? >> THEY ARE OUR CYBER CONSULTANT. SO WE USE THEM AS FAR AS TO TRAIN FOR NEW POSITIONS, AND MOST JURISDICTIONS DON'T HAVE A CYBER INSURANCE YET. THE NEXT YEAR, IT EXPLODED TO ABOUT A 30-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAD TO MEET REQUIREMENTS.

CYBER DONKEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PORTALS AND WHATNOT.

>> HOW DID YOU END UP PICKING CYBER DONKEY OUT OF ALL THE

OTHER FIRMS? >> THE CYBER DONKEY PRESIDENT, HE HELPED BUILD THE SOFTWARE THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS USES.

AFTER HE BUILT IT, HE WENT ON HIS OWN TO DO CONSULTING.

HE TEACHES A POSITION -- I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT THIS AUDITOR WOULD BE DOING. HE WORKS WITH OTHER AGENCIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. DHS.

NATIONAL GUARD. HE DOES GO OVERSEAS TO LONDON, SAUDI ARABIA AND ALL THAT, AND PERFORMS THESE TYPES OF CLASSES, THE SERVICES THAT HE GIVES US. SO I FEEL --

>> THAT'S REDUNDANT. >> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS HE'S INVOLVED WITH I.T. THE GUY THAT I WANT TO CALL IN

IS AN OUTSIDER. >> HE'S A CONSULTANT AS WELL.

HE'S AN OUTSIDER. >> AN OUTSIDER -- IF WE DON'T DO AN OUTSIDER, WE MIGHT AS WELL DROP THIS.

>> HE'S AN OUTSIDER. >> NO, HE'S NOT.

HE'S DEALING WITH OUR SYSTEMS NOW.

>> YES, CORRECT.

>> AN AUDIT AND SAY, I'LL FIX WHAT I SOLD Y'ALL.

>> HE'S THE ONE THAT PERFORMED OUR AUDIT.

HE SAYS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COUNTY.

HEY, ALSO, I CAN FIX IT. >> NO, I CALLED HIM.

I DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TO FIX IT.

IF YOU GO CYBER DONKEY, YOU MIGHT AS WELL NOT MESS WITH THIS PROJECT. WE NEED AN OUTSIDER WHO HAS NO CONNECTIONS WITH ANYBODY IN I.T. TO BE FAIR.

IF YOU BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT'S ALREADY GOT A RELATIONSHIP WITH

I.T. -- >> I'D RATHER SEND IT OUT TO RFP AND LET THAT DECIDE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING SOMEONE THAT HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH A COURT MEMBER AS WELL, IT'S KIND

OF THE SAME THING. >> HOW DO YOU SAY "RELATIONSHIP

> WELL, IF YOU CALLED HIM, YOU Select to skip to this part of the video">WITH A COURT MEMBER"? >> WELL, IF YOU CALLED HIM, YOU

MUST KNOW HIM. >> I WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR HIM TO FINISH THIS UP AND DO THIS RIGHT.

>> SO IF I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE A CONSULTANT.

>> -- WITH THE RESULTS THAT HAD THE AUDIT FOUND THAT -- IF WE NEEDED TO MEET THESE POLICIES. ANY OF THE CYBER POLICIES OR ANY OF THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AUDIT -- IF THIS CONSULTANT IS TRYING TO DO IT.

IF THE CONSULTANT IS TRYING TO COME AND BE A MIDDLE PERSON EITHER BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY DEPARTMENT OR TO THE COURT.

>> WELL, YOU ANSWER TO THE COURT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR, BUT DO I DO MY ANSWERING TO HIM, THEN, AND PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND E COURT FOR ME.

>> WE'LL HAVE GROUP MEETINGS. >> YOUR TRAINING, FURTHER EDUCATION, AND ON THIS, COMMISSIONER HALL, ARE WE AGREEING TO -- FOR A BID OR TO HIRE?

>> I JUST WANT TO HIRE AND GET IT OVER WITH.

>> OKAY. >> BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO DRAG

THIS ISSUE OUT ANY FURTHER. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH THE I.T. DEPARTMENT, Y'ALL HAVE TRUST OF THIS I.T. DEPARTMENT JUST NOW WITH DOING A MAJOR DEPARTMENT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, DOING A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH MOTOROLA FOR P1, RUNNING A RADIO SYSTEM. I FEEL WE DID JUST BUILD A J.P.

BUILDING. NOW THE JUVENILE THAT WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH. IF THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE DEPARTMENT OR -- I DON'T FEEL THE COURT WOULD WANT US TO TAKE

ON THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. >> HOW MUCH OF A JAIL PROJECT HAVE THEY GIVEN TO AN OUTSIDER THAT Y'ALL WERE SUPPOSED TO DO?

>> THEY'RE DOING THE FULL NETWORK.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN TAKEN FROM US AND THE DOORS AND THE CABLING. BUT WE BUILT THE SECURITY

NETWORK AS WELL. >> WHICH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE

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MANPOWER TO DO THE CABLING. >> WE CAN'T RUN A THOUSAND CABLES OR THE MILES WORTH OF CABLES.

JUST HAVING THE PEOPLE TO DO THE LABOR.

>> AND, COMMISSIONER HALL, I THINK THAT JAY SENT OUT THE RESUME FOR CYBER M CYBER MONKEYI ALSO SAW WHAT THE CYBER FIRM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHAT THEY DID, AND I WAS TRYING TO COMPARE THE SERVICES, AND IT SEEMS LIKE, SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR CY CYBER MONKE, THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF OF THE SAME THINGS THAT THIS CYBER FIRM IS, AND WE WOULD JUST BEING

DUPLICATING COSTS AND SERVICES. >> I UNDERSTAND, BUT SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO, TO BE FAIR AND GO THROUGH THIS.

CYBER MONKEY IS ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM.

>> SORRY, IT'S CYBER DONKEY. NOT CYBER MONKEY.

>> NOT MONKEYS. I'VE BEEN AROUND MONKEYS.

FROM OUTSIDE IN. >> AND THERE'S AN AUDIT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED. THE AUDIT WAS CONDUCTED EARLIER

IN THE SUMMER. >> POSITIVE FINDINGS, OR

NEGATIVE? >> THE FINDINGS THAT WE FOUND, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON WITH CYBER DONKEY.

THEY CREATED A PORTAL THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, MY CYBER ANALYST DID LEAVE, THE ONE THAT WOULD HELP US -- OR BE LEADING THIS PROJECT, SO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT, WE LOST OUR CYBER SECURITY ANALYST.

WE HIRED ONE BACK IN AUGUST, AND NOW HE'S TAKEN OVER THAT ROLE.

HE'S WORKING WITH MARCUS. I BELIEVE THEY MEET THREE OR FOUR TIMES A WEEK, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A FULL-ON PORTAL, OUR HIGH PRIORITIES, OUR MEDIUM PRIORITIES, AND JUST TO GET TO THOSE POINTS AND KNOCK THEM OFF THE LIST.

>> THE MAIN ISSUES THAT THE AUDIT FOUND WAS WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE PERSONNEL POLICIES, THE STRUCTURE, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE AS A DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT YET.

>> NOT YET. >> BUT THE OTHER ONE THEY FOUND WAS Y'ALL ARE PERFORMING VERY HIGH-LEVEL STUFF FOR HOW SMALL OF A DEPARTMENT YOU ARE.

>> YES, SIR. THE AUDIT FINDINGS -- THE MAIN GIST OF THE AUDIT CAME BACK THAT WE'RE VERY REACTIONARY AND WE'RE NOT SO MUCH MANAGING. IF WE WERE A CORPORATE ORGANIZATION, COUNTY GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE THAT IN I.T.

DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE -- COMPARING US WITH OTHER COUNTIES, WE HAVE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MANPOWER.

IF YOU COMPARE US TO THE CITY, WE'RE ABOUT 20 SHORT.

WE'RE HAVING TO -- MY NETWORK DON'T JUST HANDLE A CALL SYSTEM.

THEY RUN EVERYTHING. MITECS, THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING FROM ON PCS, FROM FIXING A PRINTER TO GOING OUT AND DEPLOYING 30 PCS OVERNIGHT. SO THE I.T. DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE DIRECTED. WE ARE A CONSUMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT. HALF IS CONSUMER SERVICE.

THE OTHER HALF IS MANAGEMENT. WITHOUT CAN'T DO ONE JOB WITHOUT THE OTHER ONE DOING THEIR JOB, SO WE HAVE TO BE REACTIONARY? CAN WE GET BETTER? EVERYBODY CAN GET BETTER.

>> JAY, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING. WHO IN THIS ROOM WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEY USE YOUR I.T. SERVICES THE MOST?

>> MAYBE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH ANDREW AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT A LOT BECAUSE OF THESE PROJECTS WE'RE BILLING OUT.

>> ANDREW? ANDREW, COME UP HERE, PLEASE.

AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE COURT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING, FIRST AND FOREMOST, OKAY? BUT JUST HELP US DECIDE HERE ON JAY'S EXPERTISE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, CHANGING TO ANYONE ELSE FOR HIS CONSULTING AGENCY.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND OF THE -- OF WHAT'S

BEING DISCUSSED HERE, BUT -- >> I THINK IT'S GOING FROM ONE

CONSULTANT TO ANOTHER. >> WELL, YOUR EXPERIENCE AND

DURING THE BUILD-OUTS. >> YEAH.

>> AT THE BEGINNING, Y'ALL HAD STRUGGLES, RIGHT? NOW YOU'VE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO SOME OF THESE LARGE PROJECTS.

YOU AND YOUR CONTRACTORS AND I.T.

>> I MEAN, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS OF 250 TO $275 MILLION

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WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION IN FIVE YEARS.

IT'S A LOT. >> MM-HMM.

>> AND IT'S NOT JUST A DESIGN CONTRACT AND A CONTRACTOR CONTRACT. I COULD LIST ALL 20 CONTRACTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS TO GO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN, AND A BIG CHUNK OF THIS BUILDING AND ANY BUILDING IN MIDLAND AND ALL OF OUR NEW BUILDINGS IS THE NETWORK AND THE I.T. THE DESIGN TEAM, THE CONTRACTOR, AND ME DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE WORDS AND THE BASICS.

BUT WE RELY ON OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, BEING SET UP TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE OPEN THE DOORS.

AND IT'S A LOT. HE'S -- HIM AND HIS TEAM ARE IN THREE MEETINGS A WEEK WITH US FOR THE LAST -- A LOT OF YEARS.

FOUR YEARS. THERE WAS A -- THERE WAS A PATH DOWN AT THE BEGINNING WHERE -- I THINK I HEARD COMMISSIONER HALL SAY SOMETHING TO THIS EFFECT: THE I.T. DEPARTMENT WAS GONNA DO A LOT. A WHOLE LOT.

AT THE JAIL. J.P. AND JUVENILE.

AND AS WE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHO'S BUYING WHETHER A AND WHERE THE RISK ARE AT AND HOW LONG THINGS ARE GONNA TAKE, THAT'S CHANGED. FOR THE WIRING; A GOOD EXAMPLE. PULLING WIRE AT THAT JAIL IS...

IF THERE'S NOT 2,000 MILES OUT OF THERE, THERE'S NOT A NICKEL.

AND SO HAVING THAT -- THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME, THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY DO. IT MADE MORE SENSE.

AND SO WE TOOK THAT FROM THAT POINT, THAT SPREADSHEET AND MOVED IT TO THIS PART OF THE SPREADSHEET AND SOLD IT OVER HERE INSTEAD OF BUYING THINGS OVER HERE.

SO THAT HAPPENED. >> SO FOR THE NEW J.P. BUILDING, DO YOU THINK THAT DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU, OR

IS IT A DETRIMENT? >> JUVENILE.

>> JUVENILE, YEAH. OR IS IT A DETRIMENT?

>> THEY'RE IN EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE.

>> SO BENEFICIAL? >> YES.

WE HAVE TO HAVE 'EM. THE INTELLIGENCE OF THAT BUILDING -- IT'S NOT ME. IT'S THAT DEPARTMENT.

>> YEAH. >> YOU HAVE FAITH IN THEM.

>> IF THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT -- THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING OF THE NEW JUVENILE FACILITY, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THE

PROJECT. >> YEAH.

THE WAY IT'S -- THE WAY WE'VE GOT IT CONTRACTED OVER THERE IS THEY'RE PROVIDING THE SPECIFICATIONS, SO TO SAY.

LIKE, THIS WIRE, THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THIS -- AND IT'S A -- IT'S A 44 MILLION-DOLLAR BUILDING VERSUS 173 MILLION-DOLLAR BUILDING, SO THE NUMBER OF THINGS IS LESS.

>> YEAH. >> AND WE WERE ABLE TO QUALITYIFY THAT PRETTY EARLY AND SAY, LIKE, CONSTRUCTION, GO BID ON THAT. DO THAT.

AND IT IS CLEANER THAT WAY, FOR SURE.

BUT... >> BUT STILL WE HAVE TO GROW THE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THAT.

FOR WHEN Y'ALL DID THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

Y'ALL COULDN'T DO A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF FOR A WEEK, TWO WEEKS? BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING AND HOW

TIME CONSTRAINTS. >> YES, SIR.

BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING: WE ARE NOT BUYING THE EQUIPMENT OR THAT'S -- AS FAR AS JUVENILE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE STILL PROGRAMMING IT.

IT IS OUR NETWORK. WE'RE NOT HIRING SOMEBODY TO PROGRAM THE EQUIPMENT FOR US. THAT EQUIPMENT IS BEING PURCHASED. IT'S STILL BEING DELIVERED TO THE COURTHOUSE. MY NETWORK ADMIN ARE STILL BUILDING EQUIPMENT. THEY ARE THE BRAINS TO THAT

WHOLE -- >> JUST LABOR.

>> WE'RE JUST BUYING LABOR AND WE'RE SENDING THEM THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE NEED. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THESE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT, IT'S THE I.T. DEPARTMENT AND FACILITIES AND PUBLIC, WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO TAKE OVER THESE BUILDINGS AND KEEP THEM RUNNING ON TO OUR EXISTING SYSTEMS. YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO A SPOT WHERE YOU HAVE VENDOR. A BOUGHT PART A OR PART C.

BUILDING D HAS PART C. SO MY I.T. DEPARTMENT -- WHAT COMMISSIONER HALL SAID. WE'RE NOT OUT THERE PUTTING THE CABLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE WALLS, BUT WE'RE THE ONE PROGRAMMING THE EQUIPMENT. EVEN AT THE JAIL, THE PHYSICAL SECURITY. WE BOUGHT THE SWITCHES AND -- WE BOUGHT THE EQUIPMENT. WE CONFIGURED THE EQUIPMENT.

WE SEND OVER THE EQUIPMENT TO THE VENDOR.

THEY'RE PUTTING IT ALL IN THE RACKS FOR US.

BUT IT IS STILL BEING CONFIGURED BY MIDLAND COUNTY I.T.

DEPARTMENT. >> OKAY.

>> ANDREW, ARE YOU HAVING TO CALL HIM BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE WOULD NEED TO -- OR YOU'RE NOT CALLING HIM BECAUSE HE'S WORKING HIS TAIL OFF TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF

OUR FACILITIES? >> THE LATTER.

YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S -- WE CALL EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT YELLING AT EACH OTHER.

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IT'S, HEY, IT'S TIME TO DO THIS. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER HALL, HOW MUCH IS THE CONSULTANT THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR? HOW MUCH WAS -- WAS IT GOING TO COST? BECAUSE -- I CAN'T GET THAT NUMBER.

>> 125,000, I THINK. ANYBODY REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS?

>> I HAVEN'T SEEN A PROPOSAL OR ANYTHING FROM THIS -- ABOUT WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE.

>> WHAT I'M WONDERING IS MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST ADD ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO HIS DEPARTMENT FOR --DIFFICULTIES ]

>> YOU GOT TO GET THE INNER WORKINGS FIXED.

>> OKAY, WELL... LET'S -- DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> WE DO HAVE A MOTION, BUT I BELIEVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN THAT MOTION.

>> OKAY. >> YOU DID ASK FOR SOMETHING.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHETHER A IT WAS. -- WHAT IT WAS.

BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE EXEMPTION.

>> YES. >> BUT SINCE -- MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS COMPUTER STUFF, I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO NEED MORE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALL.

WE NEED A SECOND TO CONTINUE. OKAY.

NO SECOND? THIS IS EITHER TABLED OR -- LET'S GO AHEAD AND TABLE THEN. JAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[8. Discuss and take action on hiring Two Fifth Consulting Inc. to provide consulting services to the IT Department to assist in the implementation of the IT Department audit recommendations.]

OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.

DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON HIRING TWO FIFTH CONSULTING INC.

TO PROVIDE CONSULTING SERVICES TO THE IT DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE IT DEPARTMENT AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS. COMMISSIONER HALL, IS THIS ABOUT

THE SAME THING AS 7, OR IS IT -- >> YEAH.

[9. Discuss and take action on a Standard Operating Procedure for the Medical Examiner’s Officer.]

TABLE IT. >> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? TABLE? OKAY.

AGENDA NUMBER 9. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICER.

COMMISSIONER HALL? >> WE'RE GONNA TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT WEEK. COUNTY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE A

LITTLE BIT LONGER TO LOOK AT IT. >> OKAY.

AS FAR AS STANDARD OPERATION PROCEDURE, TRACY...

>> SO, COMMISSIONER, CAN WE TABLE IT, LIKE, UNTIL ALMOST NOVEMBER, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ACTUALLY WORKING WITH TRACY ON

IT. >> WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE.

>> WE DO, BUT -- >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN

WORKING ON IT? >> A MONTH.

>> WE NEED TO GET IT DONE, BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT.

SMALL THINGS NOW. LIKE, OH, WE SHOULD ADD THIS.

WE SHOULD DO THAT. SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US TWO WEEKS AND THEN GIVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, WE SHOULD HAVE IT FULLY DONE.

>> THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

IF IT MADE YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE TO PUT IN A

DEADLINE. >>> LOTS OF ISSUES THAT THIS IS

GONNA FIX. >> AND WE'RE EXCITED.

TRACY IS EXCITED. I'M SUPER EXCITED.

>> I JUST ASK FOR A LITTLE PATIENCE WITH ME, BECAUSE I AM

VERY BUSY. >> OKAY, TRACY, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT AND AGREE THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT READY BY THE

SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER? >> I THINK WE CAN BE DONE IN THE

NEGOTIATION WEEKS. >> THERE'S ONLY TWO INVESTIGATORS AND MYSELF DOING ADMIN STUFF, SO WE DEFINITELY WANT IT RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO REVISE IT AND REVISE IT

AND REVISE IT. >> I AGREE.

AND, COMMISSIONER HALL, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

>> -- WHAT YOU HAVE SO FAR? BECAUSE EVEN IF THERE ARE CHANGES, THIS DID LEARN.

>> LESS CHANGES TO REVIEW. NO WONDER YOU REMEMBER LOOKING T

ME. >> ME AND MONA HAVE BEEN MEETING AND TRYING TO GET THE SPECIFICS AND EVERYTHING.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A PROBLEM IF WE HAVE TO REVISE

IT. >> I AGREE.

THANK YOU, TRACY. >> THANK YOU.

[10. Discuss and take action trading in Unit #70409.]

>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9 WILL BE TABLED FOR NOW.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10: DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION TRADING IN UNIT #70409. COMMISSIONER HALL?

>> DENNIS, WOULD YOU COME UP HERE AND TELL US ABOUT THAT

UNIT? >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> THE VEHICLE IS -- WAS AT THE DEALERSHIP FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

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IT HAD BEEN QUITE A WHILE TO GET THINGS RESOLVED.

IT WAS UNDER WARRANTY INITIALLY, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND WANTED US TO PAY FOR SOME STUFF, AND I DECLINED, BECAUSE YOU HAD IT FOR FOUR MONTHS. IT WENT OUT OF WARRANTY WHILE YOU -- IT WAS IN YOUR POSSESSION, SO YOU FIX IT.

SO WE HAD A FEW OF THOSE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT'S BEEN FIXED. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF -- ADDING ANOTHER VEHICLE, IT'S BEEN PARKED FOR QUITE A WHILE.

WE HAVEN'T DRIVEN IT. IT'S NOT 33,000 MILES ON IT.

IT'S A 2023, I THINK IT IS... YES.

IT'S A 2023 FULL-SIZED HALF-TON PICKUP.

HAS A 4-CYLINDER ENGINE. FISH B.TURBO DUAL OVERHEAD CAM.

IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD TRUCK, IN MY OPINION.

>> WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL IDEA OF WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO WITH

THIS TRUCK? >> WHAT I WANTED TO DO WITH IT?

>> YEAH.

>> WELL... THAT'S -- DEPENDING ON ITS FUTURE USE, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T WANT IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I PREFER THE FULL-SIZE V8.

I PREFER VEHICLES WITH POWER AND VEHICLES THAT I FEEL ARE DEPENDABLE, STABLE. AND THE DEPENDABILITY OF THIS ONE, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T USED IT.

>> SO, COULD WE USE THAT AS ONE. TRADE LISTEN INS FOR THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE BUYING THIS NEXT BUDGET?

>> WE NEED TO REPLACE IT. >> WELL, RIGHT NOW, NO ONE'S --

IT'S IN NO ONE'S DEPARTMENT. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED BACK TO POOL FOR THE TIME BEING, BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, COMMISSIONER HALL -- I MEAN, SORRY, NOT COMMISSIONER.

CONSTABLE HALL IS GOING TO USE IT WHILE HER NEW ONE IS BEING OUT FITTED. IT'S NOT READY YET.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT SPARES CURRENTLY?

>> WITH THIS ONE, WE HAVE FOUR. >> WITHOUT THIS ONE, WE WOULD

HAVE THREE? >> YES, SIR.

BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ALSO LAW ENFORCEMENT SPARES.

>> YES, SIR. >> SO THESE THREE TWO SERVE MORE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE CONSTABLES.

>> ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, IS WHAT WE USE 'EM FOR.

>> DO WE NEED FOUR FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE

SPARES RIGHT NOW? >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR POOL IS BASICALLY HAND-ME-DOWNS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE 138,000 MILES. SO THE DEPENDABILITY OF THOSE AND THE LONGEVITY OF THOSE, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY COULD GO AT ANY TIME, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S THAT OLD AND THAT MANY MILES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, FOR THIS ONE, IT COULD BE A GOOD VEHICLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE. BASED ON ITS PAST, IT WILL NOT BE. AS FAR AS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT TRADING IT IN: RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BEING A GOOD TRADE-IN, BUT IF YOU PUT VERY MANY MORE MILES ON IT, IF IT

TEARS UP MORE, IT WON'T BE. >> CHRISTY?

>> I THINK COMMISSIONER HALL HAD A DECENT TRADE-IN, SO...

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT TRADE VALUE THAT HE WAS OFFERED IS GONNA LAST.

BUT IF WE -- IF WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR THE TIME BEING, THEN I

DON'T KNOW -- >> WON'T LAST ANY LONGER THAN

WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. >> CHRISTY, COULD WE USE THIS TRUCK TO TRADE IN FOR ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GETTING?

>> YES, WE COULD. >> BECAUSE ANOTHER THING IS I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GROWING OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED TO BE WISE, BECAUSE EACH CAR THAT WE BUY, NOT ONLY IS THE INITIAL COST OF THE VEHICLE ITSELF, BUT WE HAD LONG-TERM COSTS ON IT FROM TIRES, OIL CHANGE, FUEL.

SO IF WE HAVE SOME SPARES RIGHT NOW FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR NEW SPARES, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD TRY TO --

YES, SIR? >> DO YOU SUPPORT CRIMINAL

JUSTICE? >> OF COURSE.

YOU DIDN'T SEE ON THE BUDGET? >> YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT ON

THIS TRUCK. >> WELL, THIS -- AND IF YOU DON'T DO THIS TRUCK, ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE SAME

THING TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY. >> WHE

>> WHAT AM I -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRADING IN A UNIT RIGHT

NOW. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT REPLACING

IT. >> IT'S IN FLEET.

>> COURTHOUSE SECURITY, IF THE J.P.'S OFFICE NEEDS --

>> THAT'S NOT THIS ONE. JAY, CAN WILL YOU CALL NUMBER 1O

WE CAN BE AAGENDAIZED DIRECTLY. >> -- A 4 CYLINDER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THING COULD BE USED FOR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE LAST MEETING THAT WE ALSO HAD.

>> YEAH. >> SO, IF --

>> YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION ON NUMBER 10?

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>> I THINK WE NEED TO TRADE THE VEHICLE IN FOR A NEW TRUCK.

>> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT.

>> I'VE GOT A GUY TO GIVE US 20,000, WHICH IS $4,000 MORE THAN THE WARRANTY, BUT WE NEED A VEHICLE FOR THOSE COURTHOUSE

SECURITY PEOPLE. >> THAT'S ITEM 11.

>> OKAY. >> SO LET'S MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 10 SO WE CAN MOVE ON.

COMMISSIONER HALL, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION ON 10?

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT HE TRADE IN UNIT 70409.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> OKAY.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TRADE IN UNIT 70409 FOR ONE.

NEW VEHICLES THAT WE'LL BE BUYING ON THE NEW BUDGET.

DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, CHRISTY? THAT WE USE THIS VEHICLE AS A TRADE-IN FOR ONE OF THE NEW VEHICLES WE'RE BUYING?

>> WELL, WE HAVE... ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE. WELL, WE HAVE NINE VEHICLES IN SURPLUS THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON USING AS TRADE-INS.

>> AND HOW MANY CARS ARE WE BUYING?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY WERE BUDGETED OFF THE TOP OF MY

HEAD. >> DO YOU NEED A MOTION?

>> I DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR IT TO BE USED AS A TRADE-IN.

OTHER THAN WHAT I'M GOING TO USE TO PURCHASE A NEW VEHICLE.

THEN I'LL BRING THAT QUOTE TO YOU, AND I'LL ANNOUNCE THE TWO

VEHICLES THAT I'M TRADING IN. >> THIS IS THE SECOND VEHICLE THAT I KNOW OF SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THAT I KNOW OF THAT'S NOT REALLY IDEAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT. WITH THESE NEW VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRADING IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, CAN WE ENSURE THAT DENNIS LOOKS AT 'EM BEFORE WE ORDER THEM?

>> YES. >> BECAUSE WE BOUGHT ONE THAT WAS A V6, ONE THAT WAS A V4 FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND NEITHER OF THOSE VEHICLES IS IDEAL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> THE VEHICLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS A FOR THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE. THEY DON'T NEED TO PURSUE.

THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP A DECEASED PERSON.

>> SO THIS VEHICLE FOR THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY, THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE PURSUING ANYBODY, ARE THEY? THEY JUST NEED TO GET TO THE COURTHOUSE.

>> AND BACK. >> AND BACK.

>> THE COURTHOUSE AND BACK FROM -- EITHER, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PURSUING PEOPLE.

I GUESS THEY NEED TO GO FROM THEIR HOUSE TO THE COURTHOUSE.

>> THEY'RE ON CALL AND THEY HAVE TO GO CHECK SOMETHING THAT MAY

HAVE COME UP OVER THE WEEKEND. >> OKAY.

>> DENNIS -- WILL THE TRUCK BE OKAY FOR --

>> THAT USE? >> YEAH, BECAUSE 10 AND 11 -- I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, TRADING IN A UNIT OR GETTING A COURTHOUSE SECURITY VEHICLE FOR THE CONSTABLES. ARE WE TALKING --

>> ASSUMING THE VEHICLE HOLDINGS UP, AND WE WON'T KNOW THAT, BECAUSE VER WE HAVEN'T USED IT E THE LAST TIME.

>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BEING IN PURSUITS.

>> IF IT BREAKS DOWN, WE'RE WITHOUT IT, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT TRUCK. IT NEEDS TO GO.

>> SO THE TRUCK NEEDS TO GO, BUT WE HAVE A VEHICLE.

SO, ARE WE BUYING A NEW VEHICLE? >> YES.

WE'VE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO BUY -- ON THE AGENDA TO BUY VEHICLES. TO ASSIGN A VEHICLE.

>> SO --

>> WHAT VEHICLE WOULD WE BE ASSIGNING?

>> -- ASSIGNED TO THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR THEM TO SHARE F, FOR THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY PEOPLE TO SHARE.

>> -- BUY ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? >> PLUS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AND GO CHECK THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH I DON'T FEEL IS BEING CHECKED. THE LIBRARY NOW.

BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES.

>> ARE YOU WANTING TO BUY A NEW CAR IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET?

>> YES. >> YOU'RE NOT AGENDIZED TO BUY A CAR. IT'S JUST TO ASSIGN A VEHICLE.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> NO, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLELA.

>> TO TRADE IT IN. BUT I PULL THAT MOTION, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THAT MOTION, IS WHAT I WAS TOLD, SO --

>> OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

[11. Discuss and take action assigning a vehicle to the Constables’ Courthouse Security Deputies.]

IF NOT, TABLED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TABLED

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FOR NOW. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 11.

THANK YOU, CHRISTY, AND THANK YOU, DENNIS.

NUMBER 11. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION

[12. Discuss and take action on the purchase of a Mobile Command Center from LDV Custom Specialty Vehicles for the Sheriff’s Office with unused FY2026 SB22 funds.]

ASSIGNING A VEHICLE TO THE CONSTABLES' COURTHOUSE SECURITY

DEPUTIES. >> TABLE THAT ONE.

>> OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12: DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF A MOBILE COMMAND CENTER FROM LDV CUSTOM SPECIALTY VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH UNUSED 2026 FUNDING, SB22 FUNDS.

>> YES, SIR? >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. SO THE SHERIFF ASKED ME TO PRESENT THIS. THEY'RE WANTING TO PURCHASE THE MOBILE COMMAND CENTER FROM LDV CUSTOM SPECIALTY VEHICLES, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO USED UNUSED 2026 FUNDS TO COMPLETE THAT

PURCHASE. >> THE AUDITOR STOOD UP, SO...

SHE'S COMING UP. YES, MA'AM?

>> WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE -- WE'RE ESTIMATING THERE'S ABOUT

$54,000 LEFT IN THE SENATE BILL. >> MM-HMM?

>> -- FUNDS. AND I BELIEVE THIS PURCHASE IS,

LIKE, 770,000. >> 729,000.

>>> 729,547. >> SO I BELIEVE THE --

>> TOTAL PRICE, 794,000 -- >> MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT THE

CITY DID? >> SO I TALKED TO -- WHAT WAS HIS NAME? THEY DIDN'T GET AN ACTUAL COMMAND POST. THEY GOT A SPRINTER VAN.

THEY JUST HAD SOMETHING TO GET OUT THERE AND HAVE A LITTLE AREA TO WORK. ULTIMATELY, WHAT OURS IS, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENTIRE CORPORATE -- IT'S NOT A TRAILER.

IT'S, LIKE, A GIANT RV. IT'S ON EITHER ON F250 OR F350 CHASSIS, BUT I IT'S GOING TO HAE EQUIPMENT IN THERE -- IF WE HAVE STANDOFFS, PROTESTS. IT'S LIKE A MOBILE DISPATCH.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BATHROOM IN IT.

IF WE HAD A HOMICIDE WHERE WE'RE OUT FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

LIKE WE HAD A FEW YEARS BACK, IF WE HAVE TO GO DIG UP AN ENTIRE PLOT OF LAND. YOU KNOW.

GET A REST. EAT UP SOME RAMIN NOODLES.

GO TO THE BATHROOM, IF THEY HAVE TO.

>> HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO JACK UP OUR INSURANCE?

>> I DO NOT KNOW, SIR. >> THE REAL QUESTION IS...

WE'VE ADDED SO MANY CARS TO Y'ALL, OUR INSURANCE IS GOING TO

GO SKY HIGH. >> IT HAS, ACTUALLY.

>> WOULD Y'ALL BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THIS OUT OF YOUR ASSET FOR

FIT YOU'RE FU FUNDS? >> THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO. THE SENATE BILL 22 MONEY THEY'RE

TRYING TO GET. >> THE GRANT IS $500,000.

THE B22 MONEY IS ABOUT $54,000. WHERE'S THE DIFFERENCE?

IT'S NEARLY 200 AND... >> WELL, AND THEN HE ALSO -- THE SHERIFF SAID HE HAD $25,000 IN -- ANOTHER CONTRIBUTION FOR

25,000. >> YES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE GOT OTHER FUNDING TO PAY FOR --

>> SO, THERE ARE OTHER DONATION FUNDS, BUT OUR PROBLEM IS THAT THE FOUNDATION DONATION GRANT IS NOT BUDGETED, SO I'M NOT SURE

HOW WE'RE -- >> BUT IT'S A ONE-TIME SOMETHING

DONATION. >> IT'S NOT BUDGETED.

>> IT'S ONLY THE TITLE OF THE GRANT, BECAUSE YOU HAD TO ACTUALLY APPLY THROUGH THE SCARBOROUGH FOUNDATION TO GET IT, BUT IT IS A DONATION. BUT THE REASON MONEY HASN'T BEEN GIVEN TO US YESTERDAY IS IT'S CONTINGENT ON WHETHER THIS

PROJECT GETS COMPLETED OR NOT. >> BUT IT'S A ONE-TIME UNUSUAL

DONATION. >> PURCHASE ORDER?

>> MICROPHONE? >> IN ORDER TO CREATE THE PURCHASE ORDER TODAY, WE WILL NEED THE BUDGET TO BE AMENDED, AND THAT WAS NOT AMENDED WHEN THE AWARD WAS ACCEPTED.

AND IT'S NOT AGENDIZED TODAY, EITHER.

>> THEY DID TALK TO -- I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF SAID A MARIANNE OVER AT THE SCARBOROUGH FOUNDATION. THEY SAID, IF IT GOT APPROVED,

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THEY WOULD RELEASE THE FUNDING IMMEDIATELY.

>> SCARBOROUGH GAVE US 500,000. 25,000.

AND THEN IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 54,000.

SO WE HAVE 191.547 UNACCOUNTED FOR.

>> AND I BELIEVE FROM WHAT THE CHIEF DEPUTY TOLD ME, WE'VE GOT FUNDING -- I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FROM OUR DONATION OR SEIZED FUNDS OR WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY HAVE COVERED THE REST OF THAT.

>> CURRENTLY, FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, IN THE DONATION FUNDS, IT'S

251,000. >> SO THAT COMPLETES THE FULL

AMOUNT? >> SO, HE HAS THE MONEY?

>> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE 500,000 TO DO THE P.O., IS THE PROBLEM. WE WOULD NEED THE 500,000 IN OUR

BANK ACCOUNT TO ENCUMBER IT. >> I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE SCARBOROUGH DONATION IS NOT BUDGETED.

>> CORRECT. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET AND

IT HASN'T BEEN BUDGETED. >> CORRECT.

>> SO, IF IT'S RECEIVED IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, UNDER THE STATUTE, IN ORDER TO AMEND THE BUDGET FOR THAT, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR.

BUT BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS COMING OR POTENTIALLY COMING, IT COULD HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR. O,.

>> THE WHOLE POINT OF THE STATUTE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THOSE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES IS FOR MONEY THAT WAS RECEIVED DURING A YEAR FROM A NEW SOURCE THAT'S UNEXPECTED, AND YOU COULD NOT BUDGET FOR IT.

BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE -- >> SO WE NEEDED TO BUDGET THE SCARBOROUGH MONEY IF WE WANTED TO USE IT.

>> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUDGETED, YES.

>> BUT HOW CAN YOU BUDGET IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

>> THAT'S TRUE. AND THEN WE DON'T --

>> BUDGET FOR TAX DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

WE BUDGET FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THEM.

>> YEAH. >> NORMALLY, YOU CAN'T AMEND A BUDGET. SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE, SO IT HAS TO BE CONSTRUED VERY --

>> NARROW. >> CAREFULLY AND CONSERVATIVELY.

SO I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. >> I'M SORRY.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TABLED, TOO, OR IT DOESN'T PASS. IT WASN'T AGENDIZED PROPERLY.

>> OKAY. THE ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IS THE LEFTOVER SENATE BILL MONEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO FORFEIT THAT BACK

TO THE STATE. >> WE'RE NOT AGENDIZED TO MOVE

THAT MONEY. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND IT BACK. IT WILL BE CLASSIFIED TO SALARIES. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR, ANYWAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE IT,.

>> IT WOULD BE RECLASSIFIED TO SALARIES?

>> I DIDN'T. >> OKAY.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. >> WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION?

TABLED. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, COURT. >> OKAY.

[13. Discuss and take action on the Memorandum of Understanding between Midland Judicial District CSCD and Midland County Drug Court for travel, education, and training for CSCD employees.]

AGENDA NUMBER 13. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MIDLAND JUDICIAL DISTRICT CSCD AND MIDLAND COUNTY DRUG COURT FOR TRAVEL, EDUCATION, AND TRAINING FOR CSCD EMPLOYEES.

DO WE HAVE -- OH, THERE YOU ARE. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> SO, THIS IS -- WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS AN AMENDMENT OR AN ADDITION TO AN MOO THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2019, TO ALLOW THE MEMBERS MEECH DRUG COURT TEAM, WHO ARE TECHNICALLY CSCD EMPLOYEES, NOT COUNTY EMPLOYEES, TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND TRAINING AND TRAVEL WITH US AND PAY FOR THOSE EXPENSES. THE ISSUE TODAY IS THAT, COME JANUARY 1ST, I WILL BE TAKING OVER THE VETERANS' COURT FROM JUDGE ROBERTSON. WE ARE SCHEDULED NEXT WEEK TO TRAVEL TO THREE DIFFERENT COURTS AND OBSERVE VETERANS' COURTS TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. AND THIS IS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, THAT VET COURT, THOSE TEAM MEMBERS ARE NOT OFFICIALLY APPROVED AND ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT TRAINING MONEY -- OR THAT REIMBURSEMENT FOR TRAVEL. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO

TODAY. >> SO, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MOVEMENT OF THE VETERANS COURT EMPLOYEES?

ADD TO THIS MOU? >> ESSENTIALLY, YES, SIR.

>> I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE

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EXPENSES FOR TRAVEL FOR THESE CSCD EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE -- >> WE ALREADY HAVE AN MOU IN PLACE TO COVER DRUG COURT AND TRANSITIONAL TREATMENT.

WE JUST NEED TO ADD VETERANS' COURT.

>> SO THE ONLY ISSUE RIGHT AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IS THERE NEEDS TO BE -- THIS HAS KIND OF COME UP VERY QUICKLY, AND THERE NEED TO BE SOME CHANGES MADE TO THE MOU AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND