Aug 18, 2026 Commissioner's Court

[1. Call to Order.]

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>> OKAY. IT'S 9:00 AM AND I'D LIKE TO

CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. >> AND IF I COULD HAVE EVERYONE STAND AND HAVE FATHER BALL ANTHONY WITH SAINT STEPHENS CATHOLIC CHURCH TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING

PLEASE FOR THE PLEDGES. >> FOR THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AMEN.

GRACIOUS AND ALMIGHTY GOD, WE'RE GATHERED TOGETHER KNOW GRATITUDE FOR THE GIFT OF THIS DAY AND THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THE PEOPLE OF MIDLAND COUNTY TEXAS AND ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS COMMISSIONER'S COUNTY JUDGE AND EACH COMMISSIONER, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES ALL 5U8 PRESENT HERE TODAY.

LORD GUIDE THIS MEETING WITH WISDOM.

PATIENTS, FAIRNESS AND RESPECT AND HELP EVERY DISCUSSION AND DECISION BE ROOT IN TRUTH, JUSTICE, COMPASSION AND THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL THE PEOPLE. BLESS MIDLAND COUNTY OUR FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND YOUTH, ELDERLY.

VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TEACHERS, FARMERS. RANCHERS AND OIL FIELD WORKERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND ALL WHO LABOR AND BUILD OUR COMMUNITY.

MAY EVERY DECISION MADE HERE PRO MOTE HUMAN DIGTY NITTY AND SERVE THOSE MOST IN NEED. GIVE OUR LEADERS HUMBLE HEART AND CLEAR MIND AND COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

LORD BLESS OUR NATION AND MIDLAND COUNTY AND MAY YOU BE IN OUR HOMES AND YOUR WISDOM GUIDE OUR LEADERS AND PROTECTION UPON ALL WHOM CONCERNED. IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

AMEN. >> FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE

INDIVISIBLE. >> THANK YOU FATHER.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

[4. Acknowledge anniversaries for Midland County employees.]

NOW WE HAVE A VERY PACKED AGENDA TODAY SO IF WE COULD MAKE EVERYTHING FAIR I WILL PROMPT AND GET TO THE POINT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TOMORROW AND FINISH THIS THING UP. IF EVERYBODY COULD HELP ME WITH THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO FOUR.

ACKNOWLEDGE JULY 2026 MONTHLY REPORT FOR JP ANNIVERSARYS FOR MID BALL LAND COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE TWO THIS MONTH AND MONA IS HELP ME WITH THIS SO GET WITH HER AND THE FIRST ONE IS MARGARET TAYLOR WHO HAS SERVED MIDLAND COUNTY FOR FIVE YEARS.

IS SHE HERE? THERE WE GO.

YOU WANT TO COME ON UP? MARGARET, THANK YOU.

>> AND OUR NEXT ONE IS KAYLA WILSON ALSO WITH MIDLAND COUNTY FOR FIVE YEARS. [APPLAUSE] WE APPRECIATE YA'LL'S WILLINGNESS AND SUPPORT TO BE HERE WITH MIDLAND COUNTY. THANK YA'LL.

[APPLAUSE] OKAY.

[11. Discuss and take action receiving presentation from HEB and waiving any Horseshoe fees associated with the Annual Feast of Sharing event.]

LET ME CALL ITEM 11. DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION RECEIVE AND PRESENTATION FROM H E B IN WAIVING ANY HORSESHOE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNUAL FEE FEAST OF SHARING EVENT.

WE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM H E B HERE.

>> WE CAN DO 12 ALSO. >> OKAY.

GO AHEAD. >> GOOD MORNING I'M JOSEY WHAT SOB THE COMMUNITY COORDINATOR FOR H-E-B AND AS WAS MENTIONED

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WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH MIDLAND COUNTY AND ALSO, THE WEST TEXAS FOOD BANK AND UNITED WAY MIDLAND AND IT REALLY TAKES A VILLAGE AND I CAN TALKING ABOUT FEAST OF SHARING IF A LONG TIME BUT I

WON'T DO THAT. >> GOOD JOB.

THAT'S GREAT. >> WE WANT TO CORDIALLY INVITE YOU TO FEAST OF SHARING IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN MORE ABOUT FEEDING OUR LESS FORTUNATE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT IT'S BECOMING A THANKSGIVING WIDE EVENT SO I HOPE TO SEE MANY OF YOU THERE.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHY YOU DO

THE FEAST OF SHARING. >> YES, MA'AM.

JUST TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO POUR BACK INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE AND TO GIVE THAT SENSE OF LIKE I

MENTIONED OF COMMUNITY. >> WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS TO PREPARE FOR, TO HELP YOU PREPARE FOR NATURAL DISASTERS?

>> WELL OUR HUNGER RELIEF TEAM AND OUR NATURAL DISASTER RELIEF TEAM COME TOGETHER THE MAKE THESE FEAST OF SHARINGS HAPPEN THAT HAPPENS IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXTS AND NORTH MEXICO BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO PREPARE FOR ANDY SASSER RELIEF BUT REALLY TO KICKOFF THE HOLIDAY SEASON, AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANKS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO, AND STEPHENS HERE RIGHT? YA'LL ALREADY HAVE THE DATES TWO HORSESHOE, CORRECT? I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE ANY FEES FOR THE HORSESHOE FOR THE

ANNUAL FEAST OF SHARING EVENT. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU.

[12. Discuss and take action receiving a presentation from Project Graduation and waiving any Horseshoe fees associated with the event.]

ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION RECEIVING PRESENTATION FROM PROJECT GRADUATION AND WAIVING HORSESHOE FEES IN

ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EVENT. >> THANK YA'LL FOR HAVING ME

HERE TODAY. >> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME

PLEASE? >> YES. I'M MS. DONNELLEY AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS I STEPPED INTO THE ROLE OF THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR. >> YOU CAN JUST PICK YOU UP

PERFECTLY. >> OKAY.

LAST YEAR I SERVED AS THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT IN 1998 MIDLAND PROJECT GRADUATION WAS CREATED.

BEEPING RAIDS I ATTENDED MY OWN PROJECT GRADUATION WHICH WAS THEN THE MIDLANDS CENTER. AFTER GRADUATING IN 1998.

MY HUSBAND ATTEND IN 1997 AND FAST FORWARD TO PAST MAY WHEN MY DAUGHTER ENJOYED INSIDE THE HORSESHOE AFTER GRADUATING WITH THE CLASS OF 2026. MY SON WILL ATTEND FROM MIDLAND HIGH IN THE CLASS OF 2029. SINCE WE ARE A NONPROFIT WE HAVE TO RAISE ALL OF OUR FUNDS FOR THIS EVENT.

EVERY PENNY GOES FOR FOOD AND DRINKS AND INSURANCE AND SECURITY CASH WON PLAYING GAMES INSIDE.

WE RELY ON SPONSORSHIPS AND DONATIONS TO MAKE THIS EVENT HAPPEN AND WE HOST A FUNDRAISER WITH THE FASHION SHOW.

THIS EVENT DRAWS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AS SENIORS FROM ALL SCHOOLS HELP US OUT AT THE VEND. SENIOR GIRLS FOR MODELS AND THE SENIOR BOYS ARE ESCORTS. OUR MISSION FOR PROJECT GRADUATION IS TO PROVIDE A SAFE, DRUG AND ALCOHOL FREE ENVIRONMENT FOR GRADUATED SENIORS TO CELEBRATE THEIR HUGE MILESTONE. WE HAD OVER 700 STUDENTS PARTICIPATE THIS PAST MAY. EACH YEAR THE CLASS SIZE INCREASE, SO WE EXPECT TO PLAN FOR 800 KIDS THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE 10 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS INCLUDING LEE AND MIDLAND ANDY WLA. COMMON TRINITY, MIDLAND CHRISTIAN, GREENLAND ON SIDE AND HOME SCHOOLS.

OUR ATTEMPT IS TO DRAW ALL SENIORS FROM MIDLAND.

I COME TO ASK YOU TO WAIVE THE FEES FOR HORSESHOE FOR US TO HOST MIDLAND PROJECT GRADUATION AND WE DO IT THIS YEAR ON FRIDAY MAY 28TH FROM 11:00 P.M. TO 3:00 P.M. AND WE SET UP THE DAY BEFORE AND CLEAN UP THE DAY AFTER SO IT'S THE THREE FULL

DAYS. >> YA'LL HAVE THESE DATES

ALREADY WITH THE HORSESHOE? >> YES. IN PENCIL.

WE WERE COMING BEFORE YOU FIRST. WE TALKED TO DUNCAN AND HE HAS

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US PENCIL IN. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE ANY FEES FOR THE HORSESHOE FOR THE CLASS GRADUATION EVENT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YA'LL.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY.

[5. Discuss and take action on the SB22 application for the Sheriff’s Office.]

>> GOOD MORNING. THE WINDOW TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT RECENTLY OPENED UP THE AND THE COUNTY JUDGE IS REASONABLE FOR APPLYING FOR THE GRANT ON THEIR BEHALF SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPLY AND I WOULD LIKE APPROVAL TO DO THAT.

>> YA'LL APPLY ON BEHALF OF THE SHERIFF AND THE DA?

>> NO JUST THE SHERIFF. THE DA DOES THEIR OWN.

>> PERFECT. >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR SB22 FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> I SAID YES.

>> NO. >> YES, I DID.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

[6. Discuss and take action on a quote from Dell Technologies for the purchase of a Dell server for data storage.]

>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM SIX DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON A QUOTE FROM DEL TECHNOLOGIES FOR PURCHASE OF REDELLA SERVER FOR DATA STORAGE. SHE

SHERIFF? >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE TAG FULLY FUNDED. NO COUNTY FUNDS WILL BE SPEND ON THIS PROJECT. THEY ARE DOING A GRIT JOB

COMBATTING CRIME >> THIS JUST STORAGE FOR THEIR DA DATA?

>> IT'S FOR EXAMPLE TRACTIONS IS WHAT IT'S FOR.

>> WHAT WAS THAT? >> CELL BRIGHT EXTRACTIONS

>> WHEN YOU TALK THIS OVER WITH JAY?

>> YES. >> WHY ISN'T IT IN THE CLOUD?

WHY CAN'T YOU STORE IT THERE? >> THEY TOLD ME THAT'S WHAT I

NEEDED AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. >> JAY?

TALK TO US >> THIS SERVER WOULD BE USED FOR EVIDENCE RECORDS AND EXTRACTING INFORMATION FROM CELLPHONES.

IT'S SAFER TO USE IT AS ON PREMISE, AS WELL AS THIS IS FOR EVIDENCE FOR COURT CASES THAT COULD BE COMING UP.

>> THANK YOU, JAY. >> OKAY.

SO I MOVE WE APPROVE THE DEL TECHNOLOGIES FOR DATA SERVER

STORAGE FOR THE TAG. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> CAN WE HOLD NUMBER SEVEN UNTIL WE GET TO HIS BUDGET?

HOLD NUMBER SEVEN? >> OKAY.

WE'LL SKIP OVER. SO WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

OKAY >> WE'RE DONE?

>> NOT UNTIL YOUR BUDGET. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE 17?

>> YEAH. >> OKAY.

[8. Consent Agenda]

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MOVE ON TO NUMBER 8.

CONSENT AGENDA. IF EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH THAT?

>> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

[9. Discuss and take action on line item transfers.]

VERONICA? >> YOU DO HAVE TRANSFERS BEFORE YOU. WANTED TO JUST BRING ONE TO YOUR ATTENTION. FIVE MILLION TRANSFER FROM THE MONEY THAT WE PROVIDE JUST IN THE WRONG PLACE.

IT'S NOT IN CAPITAL PROJECT BUT COMMUNITY EVENT, SO WE'RE JUST MOVING IT FROM THE BUDGET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER OF WHERE WE

PAID IT OUT OF. >> OKAY.

>> I MOVE WE APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

[10. Discuss and take action on bills and wire transfers.]

>> YEAH THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE BILLS THIS MORNING.

IT IS MCP SHOWS FOR THE LIBRARY. $532.

NO PO. ANOTHER $532.

NO PO. MIDLAND ORTHOPEDIC GROUP.

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SHREDDING DOCUMENTS $183. NO PURCHASE ORDER.

SCHOOL FITNESS FOR THE LIBRARY $140.

TWO TEXAS ONCOLOGY ONE FOR $565 AND ONE FOR $1 MILLION 51.

NO PO AND I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL BILLS ONE FOR BURNS ARCHITECTURE $2 $29864 AND TWO PILOT ONE FOR

1633 AND J.B. 3. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL BILLS AND WIRE TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANNIE OPPOSED?

[13. Discuss and take action on TCDRS plan for FY2027.]

13 DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON TCDRS PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> YOU GUYS I SAVED A PRESENTATION TWO COURTSING A BUT THERE WAS NO ACTION IN THAT ITEM.

IT WAS JUST RECEIVING INFORMATION AND FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION SO THIS IS BRINGING IT BACK FOR YOU TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PLAN IAS IT IS. THE ONLY CHANGE THAT I HAVE SEEN ANY TRACTION ON IS REQUESTING A 210 PERCENT MATCH FOR PAST AND FUTURE AND A 2% FLAT COLA FOR RETIRE ES AND THAT WOULD BRING OUR REQUIRED RATE TO 13.19 PERCENT WHICH IS STILL BELOW OUR ELECTED RATE THAT'S CURRENTLY AT 13.5 PERCENT.

>> VERONICA? WHY DO WE BUDGET IT FOR 13% ON

THAT ONE? >> IT'S JUST ABOVE OUR MATCHING PERCENT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS WELL FUNDED.

>> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE FUNDED 1 TO $2 MILLION ABOVE WHAT SHOULD BE FUND ON THE OUR RETIREMENT?

>> USUALLY AT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PLAN.

>> CURRENTLY FUNDED AT 90.4 PERCENT.

THIS HELPS OUR LIABILITY FOR LIKE RATINGS, IF WE'RE GOING OUT FOR BOND THE MORE FUNDED WE ARE, IT BRINGS DOWN LIABILITY FOR OUR

REPORT SO REPRESENTED - >> THEY SUGGESTED BEING 85? OR WHAT IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION USUALLY?

>> I MEAN, IDEALLY THEY WANT EVERYONE TO BE 100% FUNDED BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIABILITY BUT WE'RE AT A HEALTHY POINT?

>> AS LONG AS YOU ARE OVER 85 PERCENT THAT'S WHAT'S TYPICAL?

>> SO AT THE CURRENT BUDGETED VERSES IF WE DID WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WHAT'S THE DOLLAR DIFFERENCE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE DROP DOWN TO JUST OUR REQUIRED RATE.

WE PROBABLY WOULD KEEP THAT WE WOULD STAY AT A LEVEL RATE.

>> DOLLAR VALUE? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BUT I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM TO RUN IT.

>> MY THING IS, WE'RE ABOVE, WE'RE 5% ABOVE WHAT THEY RECOMMEND AND IT'S NOT THAT I WANT TO START GOING DOWN TO THAT NUMBER BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE TO DO HOW WE'VE DONE ABOVE THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT'S MONEY WE CAN TRY AND USE DIFFERENTIALLY IN THIS BUDGET SO I WAS CURIOUS IF IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT OR IF IT'S $10,000 AND OKAY. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO MAKE THAT

DIFFERENCE. >> WHAT AMOUNT IS IT THAT WE CAN GO TO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYMORE?

>> ARE YOU ASK WITH OR WITHOUT A COLA?

>> WITH A COLA? >> IT'S THE 215, IF YOU WANT TO DO PAST DEPOSITS. IF YOU ONLY WANT TO DO FUTURE

DEPOSITS THEN WE CAN GO HIGHER. >> WELL THIS IS ABOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO IT. BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT

GOING TO COST US ANYMORE MONEY. >> WE STILL HAVE TIME.

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>> I UNDERSTAND IT SERVICE NOT GOING TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO CONTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THIS YEAR'S CURRENT BUDGET BUT OF COURSE YOUR LIABILITY INCREASES FOR THE COUNTY AND

WHAT, AND FOR THE PLAN ITSELF. >> THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS RIGHT NOW MIDLAND COUNTY IS ABOVE AVERAGE ON OUR RETIREMENT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS MOST COUNTY'S AVERAGE RETIREMENT PLAN IS 28 YEARS AND OURS IS 20.

WE'RE WAY BELOW THE AVERAGE. >> MIDLAND COUNTY COSTS MORE TO

LIVE THAN MOST PLACE. >> BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO WORK HERE FOR 20 YEARS TO GET A FULL RETIREMENT WHERE EVERYONE ELSE

28 TO 30 YEARS. >> CAN OUR INSURANCE CONSULT

MAKE A COMMENT? >> JEFF HUGHES.

I'M ACTUALLY TALKING ON THE NEXT ITEM.

WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES THIS LEADS TO A LOT OF OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT FINANCE TEAM HAS AROUND THE RETIRING RULES FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS HERE FOR SIX MONTHS THAT GETS TO RETIRE FOR FULL BENEFITS THEY CAN WORK AT OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES AND THAT'S PART OF THE LIABILITY. IT'S EXPANDING BECAUSE THE RULES AND STRUCTURES THAT THE COUNTY HAS IN PLACE IS GOING UP ASTRONOMICALLY. YOUR LIABILITY IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND IT'S EVERYONE ELSE IS MOVING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES BUT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FIGURED OUT THAT MIDLAND COUNTY'S RULES ARE VERY LAXED BACK TO THE 20 YEAR COMMENT, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS, AS WELL THAT MIGHT BE I WON'T SAY TAKING ADVANTAGE BUT THE RULES ARE BEING USED THAT ARE NOT 20 HCH 25 YEAR EMPLOYEES AND THEN THEY GET TO WALK AWAY WITH A BAG SO I'M POINTING OUT THAT OUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE THINGS.

BUT THE CALCULATION IS CRAZY. WE CAN GO AND DO THE MATH TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION BUT IT'S BIG NUMBERS LIKE TENS AND 20 MILLION OF INFLATION OVER THREE TO FIVE YEARS BECAUSE OF HOW THINGS ARE STRUCTURED SO EVERY PERCENT UP IT'S LIKE ANOTHER 8-9 INCREASE EVERY YEAR FOR LOTS OF REASONS.

I WANT TO ADD THE CONTEXT. >> HOW MUCH IS OUR RETIRE

INSURANCE GOING TO GO UP? >> CAN WE DISCUSS THIS NOW OR

DOES THAT WAIT? >> THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM.

>> HEALTHCARE IS AFFECTED. THERE IS A POINT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE MORE THAN OUR REQUIRED RATE IF WE MAKE A CHANGE TO THE PLAN OUR REQUIRED RATE IS 13.91 PERCENT.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM IF WE KEEP WITH THE CURRENT PLAN OUR RIDER RATE IS 6 POINT 2%. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCE WITH THAT AND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ELECTED IF WE'RE TRYING TO FIND MONEY ELSEWHERE AND WE WANT TO TAKE THAT FROM THAT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THAT'S ON OUR GROSS SALARY THAT WE PAY.

JUST THE CHANGE IN THIS PROPOSAL IS ALMOST A $10 MILLION UNDERFUNDED CHANGE IN OUR PLAN. SO LIKE MR. HUGHES SAID, THERE'S A TON OF NUMBERS AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND WAYS WE CAN GO BUT WE DO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND IT'S KIND OF UP TO THE COURT ON HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES AND WHERE THAT BEST IS DISPLAYED AND HOW MANY OPTIONS YOU CAN

MAKE. >> WHAT ARE THE ACTION ITEMS WE

HAVE TO TAKE ON THIS? >> YOU CAN MAKE AN ACTION ITEM TODAY BUT TODAY IS, YOU CAN TABLE IT.

WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO NEXT COURT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE

TIME. >> WHAT'S THE ACTION ITEM WE

HAVE TO TAKE AT SOME POINT? >> TO DETERMINE THE PLAN? YOU CAN KEEP THE PLAN AS IS OR TAKE A CHANGE TO THE PLAN

>> WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS THAT WE'LL PUT SO

200 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. >> NO CHANGES IS 200 MATCH AND EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME AND IT'S 13.5 ELECTED RATE.

>> 13.5 IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.

>> WHAT ARE WE FORCED TO DO? >> THE REQUIRED RATE IS 10.62%.

>> COULD WE GET THE NUMBERS OF WHAT THE DOLLAR DIFFERENCE IS

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>> WHY DON'T WE TABLE IT UNTIL YOU GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND WE'LL MOVE ON. WE CAN DO IT NEXT TIME.

WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF THE SCHEDULE. >> IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME YOUR QUESTIONS IF I CAN GET TO IT BEFORE THE END OF THE COURT WE

CAN CALL IT BACK. >> WHATEVER BUT LET'S TABLE IT FOR NOW. VERY GOOD.

>> OKAY >> WE'LL TABLE THAT ONE.

[14. Receive presentation from Holmes and Murphy Insurance.]

IF I HAVE TO GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS.

>> KEEP THIS DEAL ROLLING. >> HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSE FOR 207 FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.

I HAVE DATA ON WHAT'S GOING ON. SO AS A REMINDER THE COUNTY MOVED TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD IN 2025 AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT FORECASTING WHAT THE 2027 PLANNED YEAR AND I WANT TO REITERATE THE COUNTY'S PLAN IS A CALENDAR YEAR THOUGH THEY OFFSET SO WHEN I TALKING ABOUT YEAR 2027 IS WHEN THOSE CHANGES WOULD GO INTO AFFECT. IF YOU LOOKING AT THE CHART ON THE LEFT THAT'S OUR MEDICAL TREND.

OUR MEDICAL TREND IS NEGATIVE FOR THE LAST 12 MONTH, SO THE MOVE TO BLUE CROSS HAS BEEN A GOOD MOVE.

THE ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY IS HAVING IS PHARMACY IS GOING OUT OF CONTROL. NOT LIKE ANY OTHER CLIENTS WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PUBLIC TO PHARMACY SPEND IS THE NUMBER ONE DRIVER OF HEALTHCARE INFLATION.

G LP-1. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.

THE COUNTY THE NUMBER ONE DRIVER OF THE COUNTY SPEND IS ON THE INFLATION OF THEG LP-1 UTILIZATION THEY ARE $1200 A MONTH AND WE WENT FROM THE COUNTY CLINIC 12 MONTHS AGO HAD 16 PEOPLE TAKE IT AND LAST MONTH HAD 90 TAKING THAT DRUG.

IT'S ASTRONOMICAL AND THAT'S ONE PROVIDER.

SO PHARMACY TREND HAS GONE UP 39 PERCENT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND THAT'S OVER 2,000,000 OFG LP-1 AND THAT'S A SINGLE DRUG CLASS ALONE A 2,000,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IN THOSE DRUGS. WE HAVE 15 PERCENT OF OUR PLAN SPEND IS ON CANCERS. 11 PERCENT ON MUSCULAR SKELETAL.

10% IS ILL DEFINED. THAT'S THE CATCH ALL FOR PREVENTATIVE. MY KID GOT SICK.

8% ARE ON CIRCULATORY SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CLINICAL DRIVERS OF OUR COST AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DO.

HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE PREMISE CLINIC AND EDUCATE OUR EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES ON THE TOOLS THEY HAVE TO HELP GET THESE THINGS AND HELP TO FIND CANCER EARLIER. STAGE ONE IS $1200 AND YOU'RE BACK. STAGE FOUR IS $600,000 AND YOU ARE NOT WORKING IN SIX MONTHS ANYWHERE.

THE BOTTOM LEFT YOUR TOP FIVE NON-SPECIALITY MEDS.

SPECIALITY MEDS ARE THE A DIFFERENT STORY.

WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE TAKING 140 THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF DRUGS BECAUSE THAT CONDITION CANNOT BE MANAGED WITHOUT THIS DRUG.

THANKS THE COUNTY FOR HAVING A GENEROUS HEALTH PLAN OR THAT PRAY OR CHILD THEIR LIFE WOULD BE DIFFERENT WITHOUT TAKING THOSE SPECIALITY MED, SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE CANNOT CONTROL.

ON THE LEFT THE NON-SPECIALITY MEDS.

TOP FIVE ARE ALLG LP-1S AND THERE'S THOSE FOR DIABETES AND THERE'S THOSE FOR WEIGHT LOSS. THEY ARE FANTASTIC FOR DIABETES.

THE ONLY DRUG THAT'S REDUCING YOU'RE A 1 C AND GET YOUR BLOOD WORK BACK TO PRE DIABETIC STATE AND THAT'S FANTASTIC FOR THE LONG-TERM LIFE OF THE EMPLOYEE AND TOTAL SPEND FOR THE PLAN, BUT THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS COVERED WEIGHT LOSS MEDICATIONS, AS WELL SO IF YOU LOOK THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER THREE SO THAT'S TWO OF THESE AND WE HAVE 188 UNIQUE UTILIZERS THAT SPENDS 1.1 MILLION IN 2025. THROUGH JUNE OF THIS YEAR WE'RE

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23 PERCENT COVERED FOR 2026 THAT NUMBER DROPPED TO 18% OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEY ARE SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVEN.

YOU SEE THEM ON COMMERCIALS AND TIKTOK AND EVERYWHERE.

THEY WORK GREAT AND YOU'LL LOSE GREAT BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO COME OFF THEM AND THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY SAID MAYBE YOU SHOULD STAY ON IT FOREVER AND THE MEMBER AND THEIR DOCTOR NEED GOOD CONVERSATIONS BUT WE'RE SEEING CATASTROPHIC INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THESE DRUGS AND WE'RE SPENDING 2.6 MILLION THIS CURRENT PLAN YEAR SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT IT WAS NUMBER ONE DRIVER, I TALK A LOT. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> KEEP GOING. TOO SHOCKED.

>> OUR PROPOSAL FOR RETIRE E CONTRIBUTIONS NEXT YEAR AND EMPLOYEES AND YOU ASKED FOR THIS COMMISSIONER HALL, THE COUNTY CAN'T KEEP ABSORBING THE COST INCREASE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE ABSORBING THE INFLATIONARY INCREASES ON OUR DRUG USE SO PROPOSAL FROM H R THIS YEAR IS THAT WE GO FROM EMPLOYEE ONLY COSTING $15 A MONTH TO $20. SO YES THAT'S A 33 PERCENT INCREASE IF YOU WANT TO YELL ABOUT MATH BUT IT'S 2 BUCKS AND 50 CENT AS PAYCHECK AND ON SPOUSE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THOSE GO UP 20, 10 AND 20 RESPECTIVE I WILL.

WE'RE STILL WELL BELOW THE STATE OF TEXAS NORMS WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERY COUNTY MIDLAND IS IN THE TOP 10% ON WHAT YOU CHARGE YOUR EMPLOYEES TO STAY ON THE HEALTH PLAN.

IT'S A VERY RICH BENEFIT. THE DRUG MIX WE COVER BUT THAT MEANS IT COST MORE SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE EMPLOYEE PREMIUMS GO UP AND THE RETIRE PREMIUMS GO UP.

CURRENTLY IF YOU ARE A RETIRE E IF IT'S JUST RETIRE E WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT GO UP TO 146 SO THAT THE MEMBERS THE PHRASE THAT WE USE IN OUR WORLD IS THEY HAVE MORE SKIN IN THE GAME.

COSTS ARE GOING UP. HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE GOING UP AND TO LEAVE THE EMPLOYEES COSTS FLAT PUTS MORE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER AND WHEN YOU DO THAT EVERY YEAR YOU GET EXPONENTIAL TREND SO PASSING IT ON TO THE MEMBERS UTILIZING THE PLAN IS TYPICALLY WHAT EVERYONE DOES SO WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING A 2,000,000 INCREASE BUT MEMBERS AND EMPLOYEES ARE AWARE HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE GOING AND OURS, AS WELL.

WHAT THAT DOES TO THE BUDGET. SO THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE AND I'LL POINT YOU TO THE BOTTOM.

WE BUDGETED, WE THOUGHT THIS PLAN YEAR WOULD BE AT 12.9 MILLION NET SPEND THAT'S 1.4 MILLION FROM PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS AND 14.3 MILLION OF TOTAL COSTS. MEDICAL, PHARMACY, ADMIN AND STOP LOSS FEES AND THE COUNTY HAS REINSURANCE SO IF SOMEONE HAS A TEN MILLION CLAIM YOU ARE NOT WRITING TEN MILLION CHECK SO THERE IS A LITTLE INSURANCE ON TOP OF THAT.

THROUGH JUNE FORECAST TOGETHER THE END OF THE YEAR WE'RE FORECASTING AT 13 .8 MILLION WHICH IS ALMOST A MILLION OVER.

REMIND YOU THAT, I DON'T WANT TO BLAMEG LP-1 BUT THE MATH WORKS.

WE'RE GOING TO SPENT 2.6 THIS YEAR.

1.5 MILLION INCREASE ON 200 PEOPLE USING ONE DRUG CLASS AND WE'RE PROJECTED A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILLION OVER BUDGET MEANING THERE'S 700 THOUSAND WIN.

THE PLAN IS RUNNING HOW WE WANT BUT THIS ONE AVENUE IS DRIVING COSTS UP SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE NO CHANGES TO THE PLAN.

IF A COURT SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S FINE DON'T TOUCH IT THE BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO BE UP TO 15.9 NEXT YEAR A 2.7 MILLION INCREASE TO THE COST BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RAISE PREMIUM AS BIT AND MAKE ONE CHANGE TO THE HEALTH PLAN.

IF YOU WANTED TO REALLY BE DRACONIAN WHAT A LOT OF EMPLOYERS ARE DOING IS NOT COVERINGG LP-1 ANYMORE.

WE THINK WE HAVE NOISE WHEN WE MOVE TO BLUE CROSS AND WE MOVED 880 PEOPLE THE NOISE ON 200 PEOPLE TO REMOVEG LP IS GOING TO DWARF THAT SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE ADD A NEW PROGRAM TO

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IF YOU HAVE DIABETES ON A YOU ARE ON THEM YOU STILL GET THAT FROM YOUR DOCTOR. THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLY GETTING IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT.

IT REQUIRES CLINICAL CONSULTATION WAS DOCTOR SO THAT WE'RE NOT HANDING IT OUT. I'M A LITTLE CROSS AND I WILL SAY IT ANYWAY. DOCTORS AND PRESCRIBERS ARE HANDING THIS STUFF OUT LIKE CANDY.

ACROSS THE CITY THEY FIND OUT OH YOU CAN GO TO THIS NURSE OR PRACTITIONER AND THEY'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AND WORD SPREADS AND EVERYONE GOES AND GETS IT BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT HEALTH COVERS IT AND NO REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE.

WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, LARGE PUBLIC TRADED OIL COMPANIES ARE NOT COVERING THIS AT ALL. THE COUNTY IS COVERING IT.

WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS WE ROLL-OUT THIS PROGRAM, AND IF YOU WANT IT FOR WEIGHT LOSS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR DOCTORS AND THROUGH THEIR PORTAL. IT WILL SAVE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION A YEAR ON OUR 220 PEOPLE TAKING THEM FOR WEIGHT LOSS.

I'LL GET INTO HOW. THERE IS A COST WHICH IS WHERE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COUNTY AND LEGAL FEELS IF WE NEED TO DO AN RFP BECAUSE THE FEE IS GOING TO BE, IT RANGES ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ENROLL IN THE PROGRAM. PROBABLY HALF OF OUR PEOPLE ARE LIKE I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THAT AND THEY STOP TAKING IT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT STILL WANT IT HAVE TO ENROLL AND THERE IS A FEE FOR THE PROGRAM AND DEPENDING HOW MANY PEOPLE ENROLL THE FEE IS HIGHER OR LOWER. I'M ASSUMING A HIGH NUMBER ON 280 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE PROGRAM.

IT'S PAID FOR IN THE SAVINGS BUT THAT'S OVER THE $50,000 AMOUNT SO IF WE HAVE TO DO AN RFP WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT BUT IT'S AN ADDITION TO OUR PHARMACY PROGRAM.

SO THAT CAN BE A TAKE AWAY. NET SAVINGS, THERE'S A CHANCE IT'S 1.8 MILLION DEPENDING HOW MANY PEOPLE ENROLL OR GET TRADED DOWN OFF THE DRUG. THERE'S NO MANAGEMENT OF THEG LP-1 USE SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE LOOK AT.

I HAVE A FEW SLIDES IN HERE. THIS IS THE BIGGEST, I HATE MY INDUSTRY AND I THINK I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE.

I DESPISE THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

WE NOWHERE THE BODIES ARE BURIED.

YOUR CONTRACT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.

IF YOU HEARD PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER THEY HAVE CONTRACTED WITH ELI LILY TO PROCURE DRUGS AT $1200 A MONTH.

THERE IS REBATE THAT'S COME WITH THAT WHICH THE COUNTY IS GETTING THAT BUT AFTER REBATES IS WE'RE STILL SPENDING ALMOST 900 A MONTH PER PERSON ON A SINGLE DRUG.

WHY? BECAUSE I HATE MY INDUSTRY.

THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU CAN GO ABOUT IT.

SOME OF OUR LARGER OIL COMPANIES, I'LL NOT NAME NAMES, THEY ARE SAYING DON'T DO IT. IF YOU WANT IT GO FIGURE IT OUT.

YOU CAN GO TO LILY DIRECT.COM AND GET IT MAILED TO YOU AND YOU CAN GET FOR IT $150. WHY SHOULD THE COUNTY PAY $800 IF I CAN GET IT FOR $150? THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS RULES ON INSURANCE AND I HATE IT. WHAT THIS ONE DOES IS SAY SOME EMPLOYERS DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.

SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GET YOU THE DIRECT TO CONSUMER PRICING.

YOU HAVE TO EXCLUDE IT'S A COVERED DRUG FROM YOUR FORMULA SO IT WOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE PHARMACY PLAN AND SO NOW IF A DOCTOR PRESCRIBES FOR IT WEIGHT LOSS, INSURANCE DENIES IT BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER COVERED AND THEY PROBABLY CALL KIM AND COMPLAIN AND WE SAY YOU CAN STILL GET IT COVERED AND YOU GO THROUGH THE PORTAL AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT TO YOU BUT THE MEMBER STILL GETS THEIR COPAY SO THE COUNTY IS STILL PAYING FOR IT BUT THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR IT AT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT PRICE POINT AND THE MEMBER STILL GETS TO USE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN AS APPOSED TO PULLING IT COMPLETE I WILL OUT AND MAKING THE MEMBER PAY THE FULL COST.

OTHER COMPANIES HAVE TRIED TO DO SIMILAR.

THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS PHYSICIANS AND DOCTORS THAT

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YOU'LL SEE IT SPIKE IN JANUARY. EVERYONE WANTS THEM FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THEY GET A DIRECTED IT TO.

WE FEEL IT'S THE BEST FIT FOR THE COUNTY DUE TO ALREADY COVERING IT BUT HERE IS THE BREAK DOWN SO YOU SEE.

THE PRICE IS ABOUT $300 AND THIS IS ALL IN INCLUDING THEIR FEES AND THEIR HISTORY SHOWS WHEN YOU WORK WITH THEIR DOCTORS.

THE WHOLE GOAL SO GET YOU OFF THE MEDICATIONS.

WE'RE SEEING CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THEM FOR TOO LONG AND GETTING LIVER AND KIDNEY FAILURES AND PEOPLE ARE GOING BLIND.

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF LONG-TERM STUDIES ON EFFICACY OF THESE DRUGS FOR LIFE IF YOU DON'T HAVE DIABETES SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN FRONT OF DOCTORS TO SAY IF YOU NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT THERE IS A LOT OF WAYS. WE LIKE THE EASY BUTTON BUT IF YOU DO THAT FOREVER THERE IS NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR 2026 THIS YEAR IT WOULD BE RIGHT AT 2,000,000.

2 AND 2.5 MILLION AFTER REBATES IS.

IF WE HAD THE PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN $793 WHICH IS THE 1.2 THAT'S WHY I REFERENCE THESE.

IT DEPENDS HOW MANY PEOPLE ENROLL IN THE PROGRAM AND HOW QUICK I WILL THEY LOSE WEIGHT AND GET OFF THE DRUG.

MAYBE THEY GO FROM A HIGHER DOSE TO A LOWER DOSE.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE AROUND THESE AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO REMOVE THIS RIGHT NOW BUT TO JUST CONTROL OUR SPEND BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. LET ME GO BACK.

THAT'S IT. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS BUDGET SLIDE. WE HAVE WORKED WITH TREASURER AND AUDITOR ABOUT WHAT WE THINK THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE FOR NEXT YEAR BUT THAT'S THE PRESENTATION.

THERE IS NO ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA BUT I THINK 14 POINT 2 IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER WE WOULD RECOMMEND WHEN YOU ROLL OUT THE PROGRAM. YOU CAN TELL ME, YOU KNOW WHAT? ALL OF US ARE ONG LP-1S. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR BUDGET NEXT YEAR. QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> GREAT PRESENTATION. >> I KNOW I TALK FAST.

>> ENLIGHTENED US ON SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

>> THE DRUGS ARE GOOD AND THEY WORK, BUT BECAUSE THEY WORK SO WELL THE PHARMACY MARKET TAKES ADVANTAGE AND BECAUSE OUR PLANS ARE SO RICH AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE USING THESE BENEFITS.

IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS I'LL SHUT UP.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

[15. Discuss the Veteran’s Day Luncheon Event with the City of Midland on November 10, 2026.]

DISCUSS THE VETERAN'S DAY LUNCH WITH THE CITY OF MIDLAND ON NOVEMBER 10TH OF 2026. MONA?

I JUST CALLED 15. >> VETERAN DAYS WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY. I DON'T NEED AN ACTION ITEM.

I THINK I SPOKE WITH EVERYONE AND WANT TO MAKE A COURT AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT WILL BE A LUNCH AND VETERANS ONLY ARE INVITED AND WE HAVE SENT OUT INVITATION TO OUR EMPLOYEES TO ASK THEIR PREFERENCE.

I WANTED TO MAKE A COURT AWARE. >> WHEN YOU SAY PARTNER, ARE WE

USING PART OF YOUR BUDGET? >> NO.

THEY DIDN'T ASK US FOR ANY. THEY JUST ASKED US TO GO IN AND

INVITE OUR VETERAN? >> HOW MANY VETERAN DOES THE

COUNTY HAVE? >> SO FAR ONLY ABOUT 13.

SO I DIDN'T GET A HUGE NUMBER WHICH I WAS ANTICIPATING A LITTLE MORE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.

OF COURSE IT WAS BY CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANTED TO LET US

KNOW. >> PERFECT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[16. Conduct public hearing on Midland County Proposed Budget for FY 2026-2027.]

>> WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 16. CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING ON MIDLAND COUNTY PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026-27 IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? NOW IS YOUR TIME. IF NOT THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[17. Discuss and take action on requests from Department Heads and Elected Officials on Midland County Proposed Budget. (Part 1 of 5)]

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A LIST OF SPEAKERS WAS E-MAILED. IF YOU GUYS COULD COME IN THAT ORDER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. FIRST IS I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF.

DID YOU WANT TO DO SEVEN? ALL >> YEAH.

ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I'M GOING TO CALL DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUBLIC SAFETY PAY SCHEDULE FOR

FISCAL YEAR 2027. >> LET ME GET MY PAPERS IN OR ORDER.

>> REMINDED ME OF THAT COMMERCIAL A LONG TIME AGO WHEN CHER MADE THE COMMENT IF A BEAUTIFUL BODY CAME IN A BOTTLE THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE. ANYWAY'S.

A LITTLE HUMOR WITH THAT. BEFORE I GET STARTED, ON MY PROPOSAL TO DISCUSS NUMBER SEVEN WITH THE COURT I WANT TO GIVE YOU QUICK NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS DONE THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

WE'VE SAVED OVER 1.1 MILLION IN TAXES BECAUSE WE'RE USING COMMISSARY FUNDS, DONATIONS AND FORFEITURE MONEY AND THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF A THE MONEY THAT WE PUT BACK TO THE COUNTY TAXPAYER, SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. ON NUMBER SEVEN.

I MET WITH THE JUDGE AND AUDITOR AND FOR THE SALARY PROPOSAL.

THE ONLY CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IS I WENT IN ASKING IF WE COULD MAKE GRADE 8 FOR BONDING AND BOOKING AND RECORDS DIVISION AND IN OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR MEETING IT WAS AGREED THAT WE WOULD NOT PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY PAY SCALE SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A BLANK ON NUMBER EIGHT WITH NOBODY THERE.

NO NAMES THERE OR POSITIONS THERE.

THE ONLY CHANGE GOING FROM 2026 TO 2027 ON THIS IS YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT IN FRONT OF YOU IS ASKING FOR THE JAILERS TO GO TO PS 9 AND MAKE ALL CORPORALS THE SAME PAY RATE AS WE HAVE THE OTHER AS EVERYBODY ELSE. JUST THE OTHERS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THAT REGARD. BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THAT THING. I HAVE ONE THAT'S CURRENT AND THEN I HAVE ONE WITH A 2% INCREASE OF SALARIES THAT YOU RECOMMENDED FOR THE EMPLOYEES. I'M ASSUMING WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE A COURT ON THIS BECAUSE THE TWO DIFFERENT PAY SCALES WE HAVE THE COUNTY PAY SCALE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO PRESENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO INCLUDE US IN THE 2% SALARY ADJUSTMENT OR

INCREASE >> I KNOW THAT FOR THE 2% WE DON'T MOVE THE SCALE ON THE REGULAR ONE.

EVERYONE MOVES THE GRADE, CORRECT? AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS NOT DONE AND THE OTHER ONE IS I'M SEE THAT JAILERS MOVE FROM PS 8 TO PS 9 AND THEN THE CORPORALS FROM PS 9 WILL GO TO PS 11, THE JAIL

CORPORALS? >> CORRECT.

>> AND ALSO IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET THE SHERIFF REQUESTED ALL OF HIS CORPORALS BE MOVED TO SERGEANTS?

>> NO. THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

>> PROPOSED BUDGET IS ONLY THREE POSITIONS.

WE'LL STILL HAVE CORPORALS IN THE JAIL.

>> WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PAY OF A JAILER IN THIS AREA OF THE

STATE? >> I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS.

WE PAY OUR EMPLOYEES WELL. THE COST OF LIVING IS HIGH OUT HERE AND WE'RE COMPETING WITH THE AIL FIELDS AND THE JAIL IS A TOUGH PLACE TO WORK AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND WE HOPE IF WE HAVE THE NEW FACILITY THAT WILL HELP OUT BECAUSE OF THE NEW DIRECTION AS FAR AS SUPERVISION OF THE IN 345I9S WE'RE GOING TO

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>> WHAT I NOTICE ON THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE WEBSITE THE AVERAGE PAY IS FROM $45,000 TO $55,000 AND WE'RE STILL ALMOST 10,000 ABOVE THE HIGHEST AVERAGE MARKER AND THEN WE JUST DID THE RETENTION BONUS, AS WELL WHICH INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL 3,000 DOLLARS FOR TWO-YEARS? THE FIRST TWO YEARS? AND NOW WE'RE WANTING TO START OFF AT $71 THOUSAND UP NEAR I WILL 20,000 ABOVE THE HIGH

PORTION OF THE AVERAGE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> JUST MAKING SURE. >> BEFORE WE GO FURTHER I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OPENINGS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. THANK YOU.

I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, AS WELL. >> AS OF AUGUST 17TH THERE'S 8 OPENINGS IN THE JAIL. THREE INVESTIGATORS, ONE COURTHOUSE SECURITY. 13 IN PATROL AND THREE.

IN FEBRUARY OF 26, ONE IN ADMINISTRATION, THREE COURTHOUSE SECURITY, 18 IN THE JAIL AND 13 IN CONTROL AND ANIMAL CONTROL FOR A TOTAL OF 40. LAST YEAR, THREE INVESTIGATORS, 28 PEOPLE IN THE JAIL. 13 IN PATROL.

I KNOW THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT RUN TO THE RADIO STATION AND COMPLAIN I'M AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I'M ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS GETTING GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE'RE NOT GETTING IT HERE BY THROWING MORE MONEY AT IT C

>> I KNOW RIGHT NOW HOW MANY JAILERS DO YOU NEED?

>> I THINK THE NUMBERS, I CHECKED THEM LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING SO HOPEFULLY I'M SPOT ON AND I'M TALKING ABOUT PATROL AND JAILERS RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO CHECK THE OTHER STUFF BECAUSE WE, IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY IF AND WHAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER COULD BE. EIGHT VACANCIES IN PATROL.

7 PEOPLE IN ACADEMY RIGHT NOW AND ONE THAT'S ALLOWABLE TRANSFER FROM SISTER AGENCY IN THE HILL COUNTRY AREA LEAVING A NET OF SEVEN OPENINGS IN PATROL. IF ALL PASS THE TEST AND PASS THE PROGRAM, IN THE JAIL, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17 VACANCIES FOR THE LINE JAILERS. TWO IN THE BACKGROUND AND THREE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING INTERVIEWED WITH 12 PEOPLE IN THE VACANCIES IN THE FIRST LINE JAILERS.

THAT WAS THIS MORNING WHEN I TALKED TO COMMAND STAFF.

LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TAKEN A STEP BACK IN THE LAST YEARS.

MIDLAND COUNTY HAS AS FAR AS POPULATION OF OUR CITY.

WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST 30 TO 60 DAYS WE'VE HAD TO UTILIZE OUR SWAT TEAM DUE TO ACTIVE SHOOTER AND PEOPLE WITH GUNS BARRICADE IN THEIR HOMES. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS VERY DANGEROUS MORE THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED AND WE DON'T, LIKE COMMISSIONER HALL SAID WE LOOK FOR QUALITY PEOPLE AND I'M GOING TO STAND BEFORE THIS COURT AND THE CITIZEN OF THES COUNTY AND NOT HIRE SUBSTANDARD EMPLOYEES TO PROTECT THEIR LIVES. I WANT THE BEST OF THE BEST.

I WANT PEOPLE THAT CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE FOLKS DOING THEIR JOB CORRECT I WILL THAT I HAVE TO

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>> ON THE CURRENT JAIL HOW MANY DO YOU NEED PER INMATE? BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT STYLE OF WATCHING THE INMATES RIGHT? HOW MANY JAILERS PER INMATE DO YOU NEED? OR HOW MANY INMATES PER JAILER? WHAT'S THE RATIO?

>> I THINK THAT WITH THE VISION YOU HAVE TO HAVE 148 I BELIEVE.

>> 148? >> 170? I BELIEVE. LET ME.

SEE IF MR. THOMPSON CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION MORE EASILY THAN I

CAN. >> REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF

JAIL YOU HAVE TO HAVE 148 >> RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE STANDARD

WE HAVE? >> JAIL STANDARDS YES?

>> PERFECT. I'M JUST TRYING TO CALCULATE FROM THE NEW JAIL TO THE OLD JA

JAIL. >> WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GET

AT? >> I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MANY JAILERS PER SHIFT. ABOUT 11 PER SHIFT?

>> I THINK IT'S, I THINK IN A PERFECT WORLD IT'S BETWEEN 17 AND 20 PER SHIFT. THAT ALLOWS SERGEANT AND CORPORAL TO DO THEIR JOB AND THE SUPERVISORS THAT WORK AN AREA.

>> PERFECT. >> COMMISSIONER? I LEFT MY BUDGET BOOK UP THERE SO I'VE ASKED SAM TO BRING IT DOWN FOR US SO I'M KIND OF STALLING UNTIL I GET THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY NOTES ARE SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT ANOTHER THING WHILE WE WAIT FOR

THE BUDGET. >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LAST SLIDE AND TAKE UP LITTLE TIME. THIS IS AVERAGE TO THE STATE OF TEXAS IN WEST TEXAS WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

IN THE PANHANDLE WE'RE PAYING MORE.

THEN IN THE METROPLEX WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

>> CLOSER TO THE HIGH END. >> WE'RE ABOVE THEM IN SOUTH TEXAS WE'RE ABOVE THEM. CENTRAL TEXAS WE'RE ABOVE THEM, AND OF COURSE EAST TEXAS WE'RE HIGHER, SO I THINK THE PAY SCALE NEEDS TO STAY LIKE IS IT TO DAY AND THIS ISN'T ANYTHING AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT THE TAXPAYERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT. I'M DONE.

>> WELL COMMISSIONERS, SO IN ORDER TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REM REMOVE WHAT HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING FOR SO THAT I CAN.

>> HAS THIS BEEN POSTED ON THE BUDGET YET OR DO WE HAVE TO

ADOPT IT? >> YOU HAVE TO ADOPT IT BUT THE NUMBERS CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET DOES INCLUDE

THIS SCALE >> SO WE COULD GO BACK TO THE LAST PAY SCALE? YAY! YOU ARE ALREADY ON THAT SCALE BUT YOU WOULD CHANGE THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO BE IN

ACCORDANCE TO THE CURRENT SCALE? >> THAT'S THE ACTION WE HAVE TO TAKE IF COMMISSIONER HALL WANTS TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT PAY

SCALE? >> CORRECT.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT PAY SCALE.

>> IF WE STAY AT THE SAME PAY SCALE THAT WE ARE LAST YEAR SO ARE YOU SAYING THE CURRENT EMP EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THE JAILERS, OPERATIONS AND COMMISSION PERSONNEL WILL NOT GET A 2% COLA

THIS YEAR? >> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COLAS RIGHT NOW BUT HOW YOU PAY SCALE YOU WANT TO GO TO.

>> OKAY. LAST YEAR WE FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS ON THE COLA AND THE STAFF INCREASE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE

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BUT 2% SALARY ADJUSTMENTS. >> THE SCHEDULE WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR. IT WAS AN INCREASE TO ALL THE

SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES. >> CORRECT.

>> AND IT SAYS THE ONLY THING YOU ARE NOT CHANGING THAT SCHEDULE BUT JUST MAKING SURE THE PROPOSED NUMBERS CHANGE TO

THE CURRENT SCHEDULE. >> CORRECT.

I MAKE A MOTION WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT LAW ENFORCEMENT SCHEDULE

WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> AN ITEM THAT THE SHERIFF AND I SPOKE ABOUT YESTERDAY AND THAT IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND EQUIPMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE SHERIFF WANTS TO TALKING ABOUT HIS CONVERSATION WITH CHUCK, WHO IS THE CHIEF OVER THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER. DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT

ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION? >> I'D RATHER HAVE HIM SPEAK ON THAT MATTER. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS

MOUTH. >> ANYWAY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE, I AM CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CITY BECAUSE I SERVE ON THE ANIMAL CONTROLS BOARD TO WOSRK ON AN AGREEMENT, OF WHERE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL PERSONNEL WOULD BE SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER MOVING THE BUDGET FROM THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUDGET AND EQUIPMENT TO CONTINGENCY UNTIL THE BOARD HAS A CHANCE TO DECIDE IF SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD WILL BE OVER IT OR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE OVER IT BUT ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT SHERIFF HAS ARE SO MUCH MORE STRINGENT WHAT THEY HAVE AT ANIMAL CONTROL AND ONE OF THOSE IS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SIEGES. AND IN OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, THE SHERIFF AGREED THAT HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH US MOVING IT, THE BUDGET AND THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING INTO CONTINGENCY UNTIL BOARD HAS A CHANCE TO DECIDE WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS AND TWO TRUCKS AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION TO OUR ANIMAL

CONTROL ISSUE. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE STAFF BUT I GUESS THERE IS NO STAFF THERE, SO THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ARE SAYING THEY ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE SERVICES?

SKWLI WE HAVE >> WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT FAR

YET. >> IN MY PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS

WITH ANIMAL CONTROL AND WITH>> YET.

>> IN MY PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS WITH ANIMAL CONTROL AND WITH HIM IS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO TALKING ABOUT IT BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE AFTER THE BUDGET BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE NEED TO TRY TO MOVE THE BUDGET OVER AND SHERIFF, ARE YOU OKAY IF WE DO IT IMMEDIATELY? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE MOVE THE BUDGETS FOR STAFF FOR SALARY AND ALL EQUIPMENT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO CONTINGENCY EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

FOR ANIMAL CONTROLLER SERVICES. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION.

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YEAR'S BUDGET? >> I AM DOING IT FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET, AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TRY TO HIRE

SOMEONE. >> WHICH AGENDA ITEM IS THAT?

>> OH. IT'S - 17.

>> WE'RE ONLY FOR FUTURE ITEMS. >> OKAY.

FUTURE >> HELP ME OUT.

THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER FIRST OR IMMEDIATELY?

>> OCTOBER FIRST. YEAH.

>> WE'D ASK YOU NOT TO HIRE ANYBODY FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS

UNTIL WE GET IT OCTOBER FIRST. >> ON HOLD?

OKAY >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> CAN I APPROACH A COURT? >> YES.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THAT. THANK YOU.

YOU READ MY MIND. >> OKAY.

HOPEFULLY I'LL GO IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.

TURN TO PAGE ONE OF 174. IT'S ITEM 100-500-10.5005.

DOES THAT HELP OUT PEOPLE? >> YES.

>> LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE FOUND IT IN YOUR BUDGET AND I'LL PROCEED. ITEM 100-500-10.5005.

>> THAT'S IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET?

>> YES, SIR. UNDER ADMINISTRATIONS.

FUND 100, GENERAL FUND. >> IT'S PAGE 448, JEFF.

>> WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE? WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL CAPTAIN AND ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO ASSIST THEM. YOU SEE THE CHARTER I PRESENTED TO YOU ALL. THAT'S OUR GOAL AND PLAN.

WE'RE AN AGENCY THAT'S MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR FOOT ON THE GAS WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOCIETY TODAY.

THE CAPTAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DESIGNATED PERSONNEL IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ACCREDITATION WITH THE TEXAS POLICE ASSOCIATION WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT IN THE PAST AND WE'RE LOOKING TO WEIGHING A NEW CENTER.

BOTH INCENTIVES REQUIRE ON-GOING SUPERVISION AND COMPLIANCE MONITORING, TRAINING AND DOCUMENTATION, COORDINATION, SECURITY OVERSIGHT, REPORTING AND CORRECTIVE ACTION, PREPARATION FOR INSPECTIONS AND EVALUATIONS.

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>> I'M NOT FOR A CAPTAIN OR ADMINISTRATION UNTIL WE GET SOME OF THE LOWER POSITION FILLED? WE TAKE THEM OUT AND WE'RE NOT PROTECTING THE CITIZENS. WE DON'T NEED ADMINISTRATORS WE NEED PEOPLE ON THE STREET TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE CALL.

>> THE SAFETY WILL BE JEOPARDIZED WE'RE ENHANCING BY HAVING THE ACCREDITATION TO TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF POLICE AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE WHICH YOU ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING A NAME FOR OURSELVES OUT OF WEST TEXAS AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT'S GOING ON IN MIDLAND.

WE'RE RECEIVING ACCOLADES FOR T WHAT THE CITY DOES AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE POSITIONS TO MAKE SURE THE LOWER LEVELS RUN SMOOTH I WILL.

>> I THINK THAT IT WAS ROLE OF YOUR MAJOR WHEN YOU PRESENTED IT

TO US? >> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IT PUTS IT TOGETHER AND ONE PERSON CAN GET BOTH CAPTAINS OR THREE CAPTAINS.

SO NOW I'M CONFUSED BETWEEN THE ROLE OF THE MAJOR AND THE NEW

CAPTAIN'S ROLE. >> MAJOR OVERSEE PLEASE CAPTAINS WE HAVE NOW AND MAYBE FOUR IF YOU APPROVE THIS BEFORE US.

SHE IS UPPER COMMAND STAFF PART OF THE POLICY AND DEC DECISION-MAKING AND YOU CAN SEE HOW BUSY WE ARE OUT THERE.

A LOT OF STUFF IS GOING ON THAT YOU ARE QUITE UNAWARE OF BUT WE'RE BUSY AND I DON'T THINK YOUR PHONES ARE RINGING COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IF AT ALL BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

>> BRING IT BACK BROWSE I THOUGHT YOUR CHIEF DEPUTY IT WAS POLICY MAKER AND YOU WERE THE POLICY MAKER?

>> I SAID PART OF THE POLICY MAKING PROCESS.

WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T MAKE DECISIONS STAND ALONE. I GET EVERYONE'S INPUT AND THEN

THE DECISION IS MADE BY ME. >> WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THE MAJOR?

>> OVERSEE THE CAPTAINS AND THE OPERATIONS IN THE JAIL.

>> WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY AS A CHIEF DEPUTY?

>> OVERSEES THE MAJOR. >> MAJOR OVERSEAS THAT?

>> IT IS A CHAIN OF COMMAND. LIKE A MANAGER OF A DEPARTMENT STORE THEY OVERSEE BUT THEY ARE ALSO OVER THE CHECKERS AND THE SACKERS AND THE PRODUCE AND EVERYBODY.

IT FALLS IN LINE >> YOU DO THE POLICY, YOUR CHIEF DEPUTY HELPS YOU, MAJOR HELPS WITH POLICY AND THEN YOUR CHIEFS ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY, WHAT ARE YOUR CAPTAINS DOING?

>> THEY RECEIVE DIGITAL OPERATIONS OF INITIAL DUTIES.

ONE MONITORS PATROL. JAIL IS THE SAME WAY

>> WHY DO WE HAVE THREE POLICY MAKERS THEN?

>> I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH SOME STUFF WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON MY OWN.

WE DISCUSS THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, AND WE HAVE DAILY CONVERSATIONS OF WHERE THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING AND ASKING YOU FOR SUPPORT OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE A WHY ARCHIE AND SAY IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. WE WILL FIND THINGS I DON'T THINK ABOUT SOMETIMES, BUT JUST THE HIERARCHY.

WE DO OUR JOBS AND DO IT WELL. >> I GET WE HAVE A HIGH ARCHIE BUT IT'S ALMOST A COUNCIL OF SHERIFF'S IT SEEMS LIKE TO CREATE POLICY AND YOUR CAPTAINS ARE THE ONE OVERSEEING THE DUTY BUT I THOUGHT YOUR MAJOR WAS OVERSEEING THIS PART.

THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED. IF YOUR MAJOR HELPS DO POLICY AND CHIEF DEPUTY TOO AND YOU DO POLICY, WISE COUNSEL, IT'S BIBLICAL BUT WHAT ELSE IS THEIR DUTIES BESIDES HELPING YOU CREATE POLICY AND HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM, BECAUSE I DO

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>> THE MAJOR'S ROLE HAS NOT CHANGED.

CURRENTLY OVERSEES THE TAG ON THE SIDE OFFICER IS REASONABLE FOR THE DAILY ACTIVITIES WIT THE COMMAND STAFF AND THE CAPTAINS.

THEY REPORT TO THE MAJOR AND THEY REPORT TO THE CHIEF DEPUTY AND MYSELF AND ALL THREE OF US HAVE DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT MAY HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT AFTERNOON. MAKE THOSE POLICIES TO CHANGE THAT AND TO THE COUNTY. YOU WANT CAPTAIN AND AD MIN.

THERE'S NOT A LIEUTENANT? >> NO SIR.

>> CAPTAIN AND AD MIN. >> MAYBE IT TO GOT MARKED OUT.

OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT

APPROVE THE ADMIN.. >> I'LL SECOND SHERIFF.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPP

HAPPENING. >> OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?

ANY OPPOSED? >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SHERIFF. >> ITEM, NEXT ITEM IS

100-502020.5005 PATROL. >> WAIT.

ON THAT ONE, GOING BACK TO 100-500-10-5220.

EDUCATION AND DEMO? SHERIFF? RIGHT NOW WE'RE OVER BUDGET HONESTLY AND I SAW ON THERE YOU HAVE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND EDUCATION AND DEMO SUPPLIES $32,000. WHAT DO YOU SPEND $32,000 WHEN

IT COMES TO COMMUNITY EVENTS? >> SO THAT BUDGET HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION.

TO. IT COVERS THE GIFT BAGS FOR THE KIDS. LIKE THE SHERIFF SAFETY BOOKS.

DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS OR GET IN A CAR WITH ANYONE YOU DON'T KNOW. LITTLE CRAYONS AND RUBBER WRISTBANDS AND BASICALLY WHAT ALL THAT STUFF IS FOR AND THEN ALSO WE USE THAT BUDGET TOWARD SOME EVENTS IN ORDER TO GET A TABLE TO BE THERE FOR IT. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A FEE.

>> I KNOW THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD DO THE BOOKS AND BRAND THEM FOR FREE WITH THE LOCAL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'LL SELL ADVERTISEMENTS ON THEM AND THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT BUT $32,000 ON PUBLIC RELATIONS TO BUY STUFF LIKE THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY HONESTLY.

AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE THAT TO 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS STILL GIVING YOU THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> CAN I ASK SOMETHING FOR YOU? WHAT LINE ITEM DOES YOUR

CHALLENGE COINS COME OUT OF? >> THAT ONE.

>> CHALLENGE COINS IS $2700. SAME LINE ITEM.

>> SECOND. >> AND I JUST HAVE A KQUICK QUESTION. I WAS TRYING TO SEE HOW MUCH WAS USED LAST YEAR. IT SHOWS 27,000 AND THEN THIS YEAR IT SHOWS $18,000. THESE ARE THE NUMBERS? OH, OKAY. NEVER MIND.

>> OKAY. SO WHAT WAS USED LAST YEAR?

>> $33 THOUSAND AND THE YEAR BEFORE $29,000.

>> IN THE CURRENT YEAR THEY SPENT $29,000 SO FAR

>> FAR? >> YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TO

10,000? >> THEY CAN REDUCE HOW MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS THEY DO ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE BUYING

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THEY HAVE ALL THE BOOKS. DON'T TALK TO STRANGER AND THEY ARE BRANDED WITH THE CONSTABLE STUFF BUT SOMEONE DID ADVERTISEMENTS AND THAT'S THE STUFF THEY HAND-OUT.

>> CAN YOU TELL ME SOME OF THE, W WHAT, WHAT EVENTS DOES THIS INCLUDE?

>> THE HALLOWEEN AND THE HORSESHOE, CHRISTMAS AT THE SHOE AND ANY OF THE EVENTS THAT SCHOOLS CALL.

WE GET DIFFERENT EVENTS. SOME SAY HEY, OUR COMPANY IS HOSTING THIS BARBECUE AND WE WANT TO INVITE EVERYONE TO SEE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OIL FIELD TRUCKS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LIKES TO COME AND BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS SO IT

WOULD BE RANDOM EVENTS LIKE THAT >> SOME OF THE SUPPLIES OR THE INFLATABLES YOU HAVE AT HALLOWEEN AND CHRISTMAS?

>> YES. >> YOU GOOD?

>> I'M GOOD. >> OKAY.

I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALRIGHT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES.

>> ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE BEFORE YOU MOVE TO PATROL.

WITH THE WARRANTS DEPARTMENT MOVING INTO THIS YOU CREATED A

NEW MAJOR POSITION? >> NO.

>> THAT'S WHAT IS BUDGETED. >> I THOUGHT - I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THE ONLY COMMENTS I SEE IS THAT CAPTAIN AND THE ADMIN ON 100-50

100-500-5005? >> OKAY.

WELL I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS INITIALLY REQUESTED BUT IT'S NOT

ON THE PROPOSED. >> PERFECT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT I SAW YOU HAD TWO PORT-A-POTTIES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT BUDGETED TWICE ONLINE ITEM 1670.

I KNOW THAT FACILITATES BUDGETS FOR THAT, ARE THESE DIFFERENT?

>> THEY ARE FOR THE INMATE, SO THEY CAN USE THE RESTROOM WHILE

OUT PICKING UP TRASH. >> YOU BUDGET FOR WHICH ONES THEN? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD PORT-A-POTTIES, AS WELL FOR YOUR DETENTION PORTION.

>> NOT SURE ABOUT DETENTION. I DID BUDGET ONE FOR 509 NORTH LORRAINE UNTIL THE PROJECT IS DONE BUT ALSO FOR THE PLACE ANYBODY DROPPING OFF HAS A ROOM TO USE.

IT'S A MINIMAL FEE. >> THIS FEE IS FOR THE PORT-A-POTTY ON THE WORK COMMUNITY PROGRAM TRAILER WHEN THEY TAKE INMATES OUT. IT IS ATTACHED TO THE TRAILER.

>> DOUBLE-CHECK IT. AND THEN ONLINE ITEM 6350, IF WE REMOVE THE CAPTAIN AND THE ADMIN, THEY HAVE, VERONICA? IF WE DO THAT DO WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE CELL PHONE STUFF OR

IS THAT COVERED IN THE MOTION? >> ANYTHING YOU WANT REMOVED YOU HAVE TO STATE IT AND MAKE A MOTION ON IT.

>> ON 100-500-10.650 THE TELEPHONE FOR THE LAPTOP PHONE

FOR THE CAPTAIN AND AD MIN. >> OKAY.

REMOVAL. IS THAT YOUR MOTION?

>> THAT WILL BE MY MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED? AYE. MOTION PASSES.

>> AND THEN 100-500-10-71100 THERE'S $300,000 FOR MOBILE COMMAND BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING THAT WITH FUNDRAISING FROM SCARBOROUGH FOUNDATION. WHEN YOU FIRST INITIALLY PRESENTED THAT I ASKED YOU POINT BLANK AND YOU SAID THAT WILL COME FROM COMMUNITY THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT GOING TO BE REASONABLE TO FUND RAISE THAT MONEY?

>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MAJORITY OF IT FUNDED BY SCARBOROUGH

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>> EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WAS THERE WITH THEIR COMMAND

TRAILER. >> THAT'S A TRAILER.

WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

>> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND STUFF TO DO THAT.

WHY WITH REBUYING ANOTHER ONE? I THINK THE FIRST ONE WAS

DONATED, AS WELL TO US? >> WE'RE TALKING, JUSTI N IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUNCTION. THEY ARE SUPPORT TO US.

ALL HAVE HAD COMMAND POST IN THE PAST BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTDATED OR SEEN THEIR BEST MALES PER SE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER SO WE HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO AND WE'RE NOT STANDING ON THE SIDE OF THE VOTE WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS AND GUIDE EACH OTHER IN THE BEST WAY TO SQUASH A

SITUATION >> THE CITY OF MIDLAND THEY HAVE ONE AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THROUGH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

>> I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAS COMMAND POST ANYMORE, SIR.

THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. >> AT THE FIREWORKS SHOW THEY

DON'T USE IT ANYMORE? >> I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW. >> IT WAS OUT THERE.

I STILL REMEMBER WHEN I ASKED YOU IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE $300,000 OUT OF $510 FOR THE COMMAND CENTER. THAT'S MY MOTION.

>> ONCE AGAIN MY PLEA IS I'M NOT ASKING FOR ONCE BUT NEEDS FOR COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE RIGHT OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE DONATIONS COME IN, AND IF WE DON'T ACT QUICK I WILL WE'LL LOSE THAT GRANT FROM SCARBOROUGH FOUNDATION AND WE'LL BE AT

GROUND ZERO. >> ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE TO

TRY TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR IT? >> WE ARE PUTTING FEELERS OUT.

I DON'T GO OUT AND SOLICIT DONATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT RIGHT FOR ME TO DO, BUT ASKING FOR DONATIONS FOR THE AGENCY.

WE HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE STEP UP AND THEY ARE HARDWORKING AND DILIGENT AND THAT'S WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM.

BUT YES WE ARE OPEN TO, THE MORE DONATIONS COMING IN.

IT'S HARD TO SAY >> IS THIS A POSSIBLE AREA WHERE

THE TAG? >> THE TAG UNIT CANNOT PURCHASE

A COMMAND CENTER. >> HOW COME?

>> IT'S ONE OF THE RULES. IT'S NOT GANG-RELATED.

IT'S A GANG CENTER. NOT TO BE USED FOR BENEFITS OF MOBILE COMMAND POST IN THREATENING SITUATIONS.

>> BUT THE CITY HAS ONE AND NOW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS ONE AND NOW WE WANT A THIRD ONE? WHY?

>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE ONE, SIR.

AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> YOU JUST WANT ONE?

>> WE'RE FIRST RESPONDERS AND NOTHING I DIDN'T SEE THE COMMAND

POST. >> I DID.

I SAW THEM COME IN WITH THE RED AND BLUE LIGHTS.

>> I JUST SAID I DIDN'T SEE IT. I'M NOT DISPUTING YOUR WORD.

YOU SAW WHERE MYSELF AND DPS AND THE RANGERS AND THE DPS WE WERE STANDING OUT THERE BY LOOP 250 COLLISION CENTER WITH ALL THE

STUFF WE NEEDED >> YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR

OTHER AGENCIES TO ALSO COME IN? >> THAT'S HOW IT IS, YES. IF THERE'S A MAJOR SCENE ALL STAFF GOES TO THE SAME SCENE, AND

IT'LL BE A SHARED DEVICE. >> ANY MORE DISCUSSION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE $300,000 OUT OF 100-500-10.71100

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FOR THE COMMAND POST. >> DID I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED?

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> MOTION FAILS. >> MY TURN AGAIN? ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS?

>> NO, THAT'S ALL FOR ADMINISTRATION ON MY PART.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THERE IS A MEMBERSHIP TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS ASSOCIATION?

IS THAT RIGHT? >> SURE.

ASSOCIATION. >> TS TA?

>> WHAT IS BENEFICIAL ABOUT THAT?

>> THAT'S NOT MINE. I HAVEN'T PAID THAT IN MANY

YEARS. >> IT SAYS $70 AT ONE DOLLARS

FOR ADMIN FOR TS TA. >> THAT'S, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH

THAT COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY. >> SOMEBODY PUT IT IN YOUR

BUDGET. >> RETURN ON D PS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE TS TA FROM THE BUDGET.

>> WHAT IS THAT AGAIN, SORRY? >> ACCOUNT NUMBER

100-500-105540. >> YOU SAYING IT SHOULD NOT BE

IN THERE? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN PAID

IN THE LAST YEAR? >> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THAT

INFORMATION. >> I'M NOT EVEN ON THEIR MAILING

LIST ANYMORE SINCE I LEFT DPS. >> WHAT'S THE AMOUNT?

>> $70. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT? >> GOODNESS.

OKAY. IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, SHERIFF

AND YOU MAID MADE THE MOTION. >> STATE TROOPERS ASSOCIATION.

I HAVE NOT BEEN A MEMBER THAT SINCE 2010.

>> BUT IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET REQUEST.

>> I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES

>> COMMISSIONER HALL? ANYTHING ELSE?

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER VILLELA? YOU GOOD TO GO FORWARD? LET'S GO TO AND I GUESS MY PAGE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.

I POLL GRIEZ FOR THAT. LET'S GO TO ON MY PAGE 17 OF 174. THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION PATROL BUDGET. IT'S 520.5005 PATROL DIVISION NUMBER 20. PAGE 17 OF 174.

>> 436 FOR YOU. >> YA'LL READY? OKAY WE'RE ASKING, THIS IS PATROL AND WE'RE ASKING WE HAVE THREE CORPORAL POSITIONS AND WE ASK THEY CONVERT TO SERGEANTS FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $10,000 IN THE BUDGET.

OUR PATROL. WE ADOPTED OR INHERITED THE PAY SCALE AND HIGH ARCHIE OF THE AGENCY, AS YOU MAY KNOW WE HAVE TWO SHIFTS PER SHIFT, TWO TEAMS THAT ONE WORKS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND ONE WORKS THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND ONE OF THE CORPORALS OTHER FOLKS A LOT OF TIMES WE GO ON CALLS AND THEY WANT TO TALK TO SUPERVISORS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT SISTER AGENCIES ACROSS THE AREA THE CORPORAL POSITION IS OBSOLETE IN TODAY'S

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THE CORPORAL DEALING WITH SERGEANT DUTIES BECAUSE HE'S OUT THERE BY HIMSELF WITH HIS SUBORDINATES.

THEY HAVE THE SAME RESPONSIBILITY AS A SERGEANT UNDER POLICY. CITIZENS WHEN WANTING TO ADDRESS A COMPLAINT ASK TO TALK TO A SERGEANT SO IT WILL SERVE PERS IN FELL IN AND PUBLIC SAFETY ON BOTH SIDES.

>> ON THIS ONE WE REMOVED TWO ITEM CONTROL OFFICERS ALREADY,

CORRECT? >> YES, SIR.

>> YOU ARE WANTING TO MAKE YAOU PATROL FULL SERGEANTS? WE THOUGHT THAT TOOK CARE OF IT WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THAT

ORIGINAL >> THE PROMOTIONS ARE STILL SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ACTION ON.

HOW MANY SERGEANTS DO YOU HAVE? >> FOUR.

>> FOUR SERGEANTS AND YOU HAVE FOUR?

>> THREE. ONE IS ADMINISTRATIVE SERGEANT.

DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS FOR SPECIAL REQUEST AND SPECIAL

OPERATIONS ON THE STREET FOR US. >> THEN THE OTHER THREE OVERSEE ONE SHIFT AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE CORPORALS BETWEEN THE SERGEANT AND THE PATROL DEPUTIES?

>> YES, SIR. >> WHAT'S THE ROLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SERGEANT AND, SORRY, THE CORPORAL?

>> SERGEANT IS OVER THE ENTIRE ST STAFF. THE CORPORAL WORKS OPPOSITE OF THE SERGEANT WHEN HE'S ON DAYS OFF AND ALLOWS US TO HAVE A SERGEANT ON DUTY 24/7 FOR ALL CALLS.

>> ARE WE DOING SIX SHIFTS? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING JUST THREE AND TWO SERGEANTS PER SHIFT?

OR PER GROUP? >> IF YOU GUY AS PROVE WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU WILL HAVE A SERGEANT AND HIS SHIFT WORKING FROM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY INSTEAD OF THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WITHOUT A SERGEANT ON THE STREETS.

SO IT WILL CONVERT THAT CORPORAL MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY INTO A SERGEANT SO HE CAN HANDLE COMPLAINTS IF THERE ARE ANY ON THE STREETS OR GUIDANCE HE'LL HAVE A SUPERVISOR ON HAND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND GIVE THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

HE'S DOING THAT BUT IT'S NOT FAIR FOR HIM TO DO A SERGEANT'S

JOB SINCE PAY. >> SINCE TIME.

>> TIMES CHANGE. >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT

THE WAY IT IS. >> WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE?

>> HE'S PASSING OUT CANDY. IT'S NOT FROM OUR BUDGET BY THE WAY? THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF OUR BUDGET BY THE WAY SO WE COULD HAND-OUT CANDY FOR YOU.

>> IS IT TIME FOR A BREAK? >> LET'S GET DONE WITH PATROL.

LET'S GET ONE THING DONE AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT.

>> WE'LL TAKE A BREAK HERE IN JUST A MINUTE BUT YEAH LET'S GET THROUGH THIS. SO WHO'S OVER THE SERGEANTS?

THE CAPTAINS I GUESS? >> LIEUTENANT?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM? >> SO YOU WANT TO DO SIX SERGEANTS, SEVEN SERGEANTS BUT SIX OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY OVER PATROL DEPUTIES AND YOU WANT ONE PER SHIFT SO ONE WILL BE NIGHTS

AND ONE WILL BE DAYS? >> NO SIR.

>> DAY SHIFT HAS A AND B. A WORKS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

B WORKS THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY >> THE SERGEANT IS OVER A AND THEN THE CORPORATION VALUE OVER B?

>> CORRECT. >> AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE OF THOSE DURING THE DAY AND THREE OF THOSE DURING THE NIGHT?

>> WE HAVE A SERGEANT. LET'S DO A.

WE HAVE SERGEANTA OVER DAYS AND SERGEANTA FOR EVENINGS AND ARGON SERGEANTA FOR MIDNIGHTS. WE HAVE CORPORAL B FOR DAYS AND

SAME >> INSTEAD OF ONE GUY DOING,

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>> IT WOULD MAKE IT SMOOTHER FOR OPERATIONS.

I'M GOING TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.

THE CITY MEANING THE P.D. HERE DID AWAY WITH THEIR CORPORAL POSITIONS BECAUSE SUPERVISOR OR SERGEANTS ON CALLS.

ODESSA DID THE SAM THING. DPS CORPORAL IS A POSITION THEY

DO ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES ONLY >> IN OTHER WORDS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PAY SCALE, AND I'M OPEN IT UP.

WE WOULDN'T BE USING THATP-11 THEN AT ALL SINCE WE'RE MOVING

ALL THESE CORPORALS. >>P-11 WOULD BE INVESTIGATORS

AND THE CL E DEPUTY. >> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. >> DO YOU?

>> ALISON YOU GOT TOO EXCITED. >> WHAT?

>> I'M FIXING TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL A MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CORPORAL STAY AT THE SAME PAY SCALE THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE.

>> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF THAT WHEN WE DID THAT.

>> THEY SAID WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT SEPARATE I WILL.

>> IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED AS SERGEANTS IN THE PROPOSED

BUDGET. >> OKAY.

SEC SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> AYE. >> MOTION PASSES.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON PATROL? >> I NEED TO HAVE MR. YATES STEP UP HERE. I GOT THIS YESTERDAY FROM HIM

REGARDING A VEHICLE FOR PATROL. >> OKAY.

>> WE CAN PROBABLY SKIP HIM BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CARDS LEFT OVER WHEN WE GO THROUGH VEHICLES, AND IF NOT, WE CAN ADD IT THEN BECAUSE THAT CAR DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED?

>> I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE

GOING INTO. >> YOU CAN HANG AROUND?

>> WHEN WILL THAT BE? >> I DON'T KNOW.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

>> THAT WILL BE FOR YOU. CRT 15910? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THANK YOU FOR REPLACING THAT WITH A BRAND NEW CAR

COMMISSIONER HALL. >> PERFECT.

MOTION TO RECESS? >> OKAY.

YEAH LET'S TAKE A BREAK. IT'S

>> IT'S 10:55. STAFF?

OKAY. >> CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE. COURT IS NOW IN SESSION.

PLEASE BE QUIET. COURT IS BACK IN SESSION.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER CHANGES ON PATROL BESIDES THAT?

>> ARE WE STILL IN PATROL? >> WE ONLY DID ONE CHANGE.

>> PATROL IS DONE. WE'RE GOING TO MY PAGE NUMBERS ARE OFF AGAIN SO 100-500-30-5315 OR YES. CIVIL WARRANTS, DIVISION 30 AND MY PAGE IS 53 OF 174. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE HAVING OUR CIVIL DIVISION WEAR UNIFORMS LIKE PATROL DOES INSTEAD OF PDUS AND CASUAL ATTIRE. WE WANT TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL OUT THERE, AS WELL. THE INVESTIGATORS FELONY AWARDS.

TRANSPORTING PRISONERS AND ASSISTING WITH ARREST.

THE UNIFORMS HAVE SERVED THEIR LIVES AND MANY ARE FADED AND WORN. THE NEW UNIFORM WILL PROVIDE LAW

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>> 14 IS THE CURRENT NUMBER RIGHT NOW?

>> YES, SIR. WE'RE REQUESTING 50 AND RECEIVED

TEN IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> THAT UNIT HAS A CANINE?

>> THAT UNIT DOES AND CANINE ATTACHED TO THE TAG UNIT.

>> THERE'S CANINE UNIT SUPPLIES, CURRENT HOME, KENNEL, SIX YEARS OLD IS I GUESS THEY HAVE A DOG THAT'S WORKING?

>> YES. >> I SAW SOMEONE NOD YES.

>> I DON'T HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE UNIFORM BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON IS YOUR CIVIL WARRANTS LIEUTENANT HERE?

>> YES, SIR. >> SO IS THAT A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS?

>> I'M FINE WITH THE UNIFORMS. >> LET'S VOTE ON IT THEN.

>> AS LONG AS IT'S PRESENTED THIS WAY, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY

CHANGE? >> GREAT.

>> YOU HAVE $10,000. >> WE NEED MORE THAN $10,000.

>> YOU WANT TO INCREASE IT. >> OKAY.

>> YOU WANT TO 25? >> AT LEAST $23.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE 10050030.5335 BY $13 THOUSAND.

>> FOR A TOTAL OF $23 THOUSAND. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY APPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> HOW MUCH GAS HAVE YA'LL USED THIS YEAR?

>> I CAN'T RECALL AT THE MOMENT. >> WE'RE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT

IT AND I'VE LOST IT C. >> IS THERE A PROBLEM?

>> NO. IT SHOWS YOU HAD 90,000 LAST YEAR AND THEY ARE GIVING YOU 95,000 THIS YEAR.

WILL THAT COVER IT, YOU THINK? >> AS YOU ARE AWARE OIL MARKET AND GAS PRICES ARE UP. SO MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER SO IF YOU WOULD INCREASE THAT WE WOULD GREAT I WILL APPRECIATE IT.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THE FUEL TO AT LEAST 100 THOUSAND BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WE PUT FUEL IN CONTINGENCY BUT THAT TAKES UP

OUR TIME. >> I'M WITH YOU.

>> I GET IT. >> MAKE A MOTION, AND LET'S GET

IT. >> I MAKE A MOTION WE RAISE

CIVIL WARRANTS FUEL TO 110,000. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID 100.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT ONE. >> 110,000.

>> IF YOU'LL KEEP IT AT 100 I'LL SUPPORT IT.

IF NOT - >> I'LL MOVE IT TO 100 TO MAKE

DIANNE HAPPY. >> OKAY I'LL SECOND THAT ONE.

OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND AT $100,000.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> LET'S GO BACK TO PATROL RIGHT QUICK. LIEUTENANT? THEY'VE GOT $250,000 IN YOUR FUEL BUDGET.

HOW MUCH DID YOU USE THIS YEAR? >> SO BEFORE THE WAR WE WERE AVERAGING 17 TO 19 K PER MONTH BUT SINCE THE PRICE HAS GONE UP WE'RE BETWEEN $28 K AND $32K PER MONTH.

>> OKAY. 3

$3,200? >> $32,000.

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>> IN 2024 $223 THOUSAND. WHAT HAVE THEY USED YEAR-TO-DATE

VERONICA FOR 100-500-206100? >> $238528

>> ABOUT $250 IS ON PAR. >> THEY USED 233 IN 2024.

>> PERFECT. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE

PATROLS FUEL BUDGET TO $350,000. >> THEY DON'T WANT TO.

>> OKAY. WELL YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THOUGH IF IT KEEPS GOING UP OVER $4 WE HAVE CRT THAT DO A LOT OF TRAVELING TO BIG SPRING AND SAN ANGELO.

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S BALANCE BUDGET FROM WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE THE OTHER REMOVALS. MAYBE AFTER WE CAN SEE WHERE THE FUEL CONTINGENCY IS BUT CURRENTLY WE CAN'T ADD MONEY UNLESS WE'RE REDUCING SOMEWHERE ELSE SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE REDUCING IT FROM AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, SO IF WE CAN REDUCE IN OTHER PLACES MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK AND READDRESS THIS, BUT YEAH. RIGHT?

>> OKAY. LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

>> SHERIFF? >> THIS WILL BE ITEM 100-500-30 POINT 5675. ONCE AGAIN 56 OF 174 IN THE CIVIL WARRANTS DIVISION 30 IN YOUR BUDGET.

>> SAY THE LINE ITEM NUMBER AGAIN.

>> 100-500-30.5765. >> SERVICES.

>> YES, SIR. WE ALL TOGETHER? LAST YEAR THEY GAVE US $1,000 AND THIS YEAR WE ASK FOR $2200.

RECEIVED 0 FOR THIS YEAR. SLEDING IS UNDER LOCK AND KEY AND EMPTIED EVERY THREE MONTHS AND THE PAPER THAT'S ARE SHREDDED HAVE SENSITIVE MATERIAL THAT INCLUDE INFORMATION AND RECALLED WARRANTS AND COURT DOCUMENTS AND DUE TO SENSITIVE MATERIAL WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS SHREDDING MACHINE IN THIS

WARRANT DIVISION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE 100-500305675 SHREDDING SERVICES BACK TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> HOW MUCH? >> $1,000.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR INITIALLY.

>> NO. WE ASKED FOR $2300 AND YOU GAVE

US A THOUSAND DOLLARS >> 2026 YOU USED 343 AND THEN 543 SO A THOUSAND SHOULD COVERED FOR YOU BECAUSE THIS YEAR YOU'VE ONLY USED LESS THAN $350 ON IT. RIGHT?

>> IT'S CURRENTLY AT 0 BY THE WAY.

>> WE HAVE 0 DOLLARS RIGHT NOW? >> ADD 0.

>> THE CURRENT YEAR? >> THE PROPOSED BUDGET HAS IT AT

0 >> UTILIZATION FROM WHEN I PULLED IT THIS YEAR IN 26 WE'VE USED $343.

>> IT'S CURRENTLY AT $461. LAST YEAR WAS AT $1 MILLION 810.

>> I THINK A THOUSAND SHOULD COVERED FOR YOU ON SHREDDING FROM UTILIZATION. I'LL MAKE MY MOTION TO INCREASE THIS LINE ITEM TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> THIS THE NEXT ONE FOR CIVIL WARRANT IS A VEHICLE.

YOU WANT THAT ON STANDBY COMMISSIONER HALL OR DISCUSS IT N NOW?

>> THAT IS THE ONE THAT DENNIS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION?

>> NO SIR. >> GO AHEAD AND TALKING ABOUT

THAT ONE. >> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

YEAH THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT NUMBER.

15582. 134548 AND UNIT NUMBER 15552,

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TRANSMISSION FAILURE, FUEL PUMP REPLACEMENTS AND AIR-CONDITIONING CONTROLS. THESE VEHICLES ARE BOTH IN TEXAS AND ACROSS STATE LINES AND INVESTIGATORS WORK WITH ARREST OF FELONS AND DUTIES AND RELIABLE A TRANSPORTATION IS

NECESSARY FOR EFFECTIVENESS >> YOU TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL OUT LAY VEHICLE. 100500307860.

>> 100500307060? >> YES.

>> SORRY. >> YOUR CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET IS THREE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND ONE REPLACEMENT CANINE UNIT

VEHICLE. >> OKAY.

SO CURRENT, THREE REPLACEMENT AND ONE CANINE AND WHAT ARE YOU

WANTING? >> TO HAVE UNIT 582 AND 552 BE REPLACED. THEY ARE 2018 MODELS WITH HIGH

MILEAGE. >> YOU WANT TWO MORE VEHICLES REPLACED IN THIS LINE ITEM. WHAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE FOR THAT TO BE REPLACED? UNITS IN BUDGET AND YA'LL GAVE US FOUR AND THESE GO THAT WERE

NOT INCLUDED. >> HOW MANY STANDBYS DO THEY HA HAVE?

>> ONE >> I'M SEEING IT'S 72787 FOR

EACH CAR? >> 103642.

>> OKAY. >> THERE ARE THREE BUDGETED

>> THE VEHICLES THEN ALL THAT SEPARATE SO 103642.

>> LET'S TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE GET TO THE WHOLE VEHICLE LIST

>> SHERIFF, I UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO DENNIS WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, AND IF WE CAN PRIORITIZE SOME OVER THE OTHERS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR $207 THOUSAND FOR VEHICLES AND SO TO FIND THAT I NEED TO FIND $207 THOUSAND SO I NEED TO REDUCE ONE LINE ITEM TO ADD THIS AND THAT COMMAND CENTER CAN GET YOU THREE VEHICLES.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. >> THAT COMMAND CENTER COULD GET YOU THREE VEHICLES IS WHAT I'M SEEING.

>> OKAY. BUT YES. I'LL HAVE THAT ON MY

NOTES FOR THAT LINE ITEM. >> THE NEXT ONE IS 100500.

CID DIVISION 40. >> 40? THAT'S CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. OKAY.

>> THAT'S CID >> LET'S GO ONE ABOVE THAT THOUGH. WARRANT SERVICES. 10050035.

>> DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY NOTES. >> OH.

I THOUGHT, IT'S A BRAND NEW DIVISION SO I WAS GOING TO ASK

YOU WHY ARE WE DOING THIS ONE. >> I'M SORRY THOSE FOR WARRANT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. REQUESTED TO BE MOVED TO THE

SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> WHO ASKED THAT?

>> THE JUDGE IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

>> IT WASN'T YOUR REQUEST? >> NO.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE WARRANT SERVICES AND ALL THIS FUNDING BACK TO WHERE IT CURRENTLY SITS SINCE IT WAS NOT YOUR REQUEST AND THAT'S CONFUSING.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

ANYMORE DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> PERFECT SO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS 10050040 IS THE NEXT ONE YOU SAID?

>>.5005. >> OKAY EMPLOYEE SALARIES.

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>> WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO T R U WITH THE PD.

RESPONSE UNIT. WE'RE ASKING WE HAVE ALLOTTED TWO PERSONNEL TO HANDLE INCOMING PHONE CALL THAT'S CAN BE HANDLED OVER THE PHONE AT THE SCENES OF SEVERAL LOCATIONS.

IT WOULD HANDLE MINOR REPORT CALLS OVER THE PHONE AND WALK IN IS AND THIS POSITION WILL BE CIVILIAN AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE NOT REQUIRING THE PERSON TO BE CERT 2350ID AND FREE UP UNITS TO WORK ON IN PROGRESS CRIMES AND CURRENTLY THE UNIT IS CALLED A WAY TO TAKE WALKING REPORTS THAT TAKES AWAY VALUABLE CRIMES.

THIS PERSON WOULD BE TRAINED TO TAKE CALLS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE AND ASSIST THE PATROL DIVISION AS SOME CAN BE DIVERTED TO RESPONSE TO IN PROGRESS CALLS FOR SERVICE AND BE MORE PROACTIVE. COMMUNITY RESPONSE WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO CID WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT POSITION.

THE REPORTS TAKEN BY THE PERSON WOULD CALL LIKE AUTOBURGLAR, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, CREDIT CARD ABUSE, RUNAWAYS.

TELEPHONE HARASSMENT AND THEFTS WITH CHECKS AND IN GENERAL.

REPORTS TO TRAINED CIVILIAN STAFF AND FREES UP OFFICERS TO ALLOW THEM TO STAY VALUABLE FOR IN PROGRESS CALLS AND EMERGENCIES AND PRIORITY INCIDENTS.

FELONIES AND CRIMES INVOLVED CLEARANCE RATES AND REGULAR WALKING REPORTS AND FAST RESPONSE CASES AND WILL LEAD TO OVERALL BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS.

I'VE GOT AN OPTION THAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN IF YOU WOULD BE GOOD WITH THIS. THE POSITION DOES NOT REQUIRE A PEACE OFFICER LICENSE. CIVILIAN.

IT HAS COST REDUCTION FOR TAKING THESE TYPES OF CALLS IN THE LOBBY AREA. WE HAVE ONE ADVISORY SALARY $105,000 OR TWO WOULD COST RIGHT AT 98,000 SO YOU GET TWO FOR ONE. COUNTY CAN STAFF TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND INCREASING LEVERAGE AND SERVICE AVAILABILITY. THIS IS DIRECT FINANCIAL BENEFIT AND BETTER USE OF DOLLARS. MANY WALK IN WITH REQUESTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE AS OF SERVES PRESENCE.

CITIZENS ARE WAITING FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIMES AND EVEN DURING

HIGH DEMAND PERIODS >> THIS CIVILIAN THAT'S HELPING TAKE THE INFORMATION FOR THE INVESTIGATORS FOR LOWER CRIMES?

>> CORRECT. TELEPHONE RESPONSE UNITS TAKE THOSE CALLS AND WE'RE ALLOWING OUR OFFICE TO DO THAT.

WE HAD AN ADVISORY THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO THIS FOR PERSONAL REASONS THAT PERSON RETIRED SO WE HAVE NOT FILLED THAT POSITION YET. IF NEED BE BECAUSE I'M ABOUT REACHING COMMON GROUND IS CONVERT THAT POSITION TO THESE TWO POSITIONS USING UNEXPIRED SALARY.

>> BASICALLY THEIR DESK CLERKS, WHAT THE CITY USES.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE VEHICLES OR EQUIPMENT THERE IN THE OFFICE AND PEOPLE COME IN SAYING THIS CRIME WAS COMMITTED AND DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RESPOND, AND IF THE SEVERITY IS HIGHER ONE OF THE OFFICERS WILL RESPOND.

>> THEY WILL PASS IT TO THE OFFICER, YES, SIR.

>> I LOVE THIS. THIS IS BEING CREATIVE AND BRINGING SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND THIS IS AMAZING. CONGRATULATIONS SHERIFF.

I LOVE THIS. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT

OR IS IT IN THE BUDGET. >> I THINK IT'S IN THE BUDGET.

>> IT IS NOT. >> OH IT IS NOT.

OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE SALARY?

>> ABOUT $161. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> YOU WANT TWO OF THESE AT 161? >> PLEASE.

>> DOING AWAY WITH AN INVESTIGATOR?

>> YES. >> PERFECT.

SO INVESTIGATOR AT 575574 AND YOU SAID YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S

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OPEN? >> YES. THE INDIVIDUAL IN THAT POSITION BEFORE HAS RETIRED AND WE USE THAT POSITION TO ACCOMMODATE THESE TWO IF A COURT ALLOWS IT.

>> WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION EFFECTIVE TODAY? WE'LL HAVE TO AGAIN DIAZ BUT WE CAN TAKE ACTION TO CHANGE THE

BUDGET EFFECTIVE OCTOBER FIRST. >> ACTUALLY OCTOBER FIRST.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ONE INVESTIGATOR POSITION FROM 10050040.5005 AND ADD TWO COMMUNITY RESOURCE SPECIALISTS

AT A 16-1. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY APPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> SHERIFF, REALLY QUICK ON YOUR ADMIN WHEN YOU REMOVE THAT CAPTAIN POSITION THERE WAS ALSO A VEHICLE THAT HAD BEEN ADDED TO THAT FOR THAT POSITION TO YOUR ADMIN BUDGET SO I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT VEHICLE FOR THAT CAPTAIN THAT YOU REMOVED.

>> CAN WE JUST WAIT AND DO IT? >> SURE.

BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. >> LET ME SEE WHERE THAT IS SO I CAN PUT IT IN MY NOTES. PER

PERFECT. >> IT SHOWS YOU ARE WANTING TO ADD AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, CID, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE

POSITION - >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. THANK YOU.

>> WE CAN ENTERTAIN IT AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TOO.

>> NO. >> OKAY.

NEXT ONE? >> PLEASE?

>> I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER. SWAT.

100500.45.7060. ONCE AGAIN PAGE 85 ON MY 174.

>> WHAT IS UNDER THE EDUCATION AND DEMO SUPPLYS?

WHAT DO YOU USE THAT FOR? >> PUBLIC EVENTS.

TRAINING. YOU ON THAT PAGE?

>> YES. >> REQUESTING THE SECOND BEARCAT. DURING A RECENT ACTIVE SHOOTER IT WAS ON THE SCENE ENABLING OFFICERS TO PIN DOWN WITHOUT THIS OFFICERS COULD LIKELY BE INJURED.

LIFE-THREATENING OPERATION. THE COUNTY DEPENDS ON ONE ARMORED RESPONSE VEHICLE AND THIS IS A RESCUE VEHICLE IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. THIS VEHICLE IS RECENTLY OUT OF SERVICE FOR ONE WEEK AND IS CURRENTLY IN THE SHOP AGAIN.

LUCKILY, BY THE GRACE OF GOD THAT VEHICLE IS BACK IN ORDER BEFORE THE RECENT INCIDENT ON HIGHWAY 80.

IN THE SHOP AGAIN. WHEN THE BEARCAT IS UNAVAILABLE THE COUNTY HAS TO REACH OUT TO SISTER AGENCIES AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, AND IF THAT'S INVOLVED IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WE HAVE NOTHING FOR OUR OFFICERS TO BE IN SO WE NEED TO STANDBY TO HELP US OUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

WE HAD AN INCIDENT THIS LAST WEEKEND OR TWO WEEKENDS AGO SO WHERE OUR BEARCAT WAS IN THE SHOP AND WE HAD TO RELY ON THE CITY SO DO THAT. IT WAS ALL GOOD IF IT WORKS BUT THEY TAKE COMMAND OF THE SCENE AND THEY BRING OUT THE SWAT TEAM. SO IT'S COSTING THE CITY FUNDS TO HAVE THE SWAT TEAM OUT BUT TO USE THEIR VEHICLE TO HELP RECOVER CITIZENS. SO THE BEARCAT WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE AND THE FIRST VEHICLE GETS DAMAGED.

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EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT MUST BE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE EMERGENCY OCCURS. WE CANNOT MAINTAIN RELIABILITY DURING A SHOOTER INCIDENT. IT'S LIFE-SAVING VALUE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE RISK ON RELYING ON JUST ONE IN OUR FLEET.

I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PERSON THAT HAS TO SAY SORRY YOU HAVE

TO WAIT. >> YOU KNOW HOW COME THE COUNTY

JUDGE REMOVED IT? >> I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE JUDGE. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE HAD SAID ANYTHING, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN HE FINISHED HIS BUDGET HE WAS OVER $16 MILLION AND HE HAD TO GO BACK AND START TO CUT THINGS OUT. I KNOW HE HAD TO CUT OUT A BUNCH OF THINGS BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

>> I THINK THAT YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

THIS IS A VICTIM OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, YES.

>> I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF IT BUT AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND $450 THOUSAND TO ADD ON TO IT.

>> HOW MANY BEARCATS DID THEY HAVE AT THE SHOOT OUT?

>> THREE. SHERIFF'S, OPD AND THEN MPD?

ALL THREE OF THEM? >> I'M NOT SURE IF -

>> H SI. WE HAD FIVE OF THEM OUT THERE.

I CAN'T SEE GIVING HIM ANOTHER ONE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. LIKE I WOULD LOVE TO TRY AND FIND THE MONEY, AND IF WE CAN GLAD I WILL BUT WE NEED $450,000

IF WE WANT TO ADD IT. >> I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL OUT THERE AT THAT TIME.

AND WE'RE GRATEFUL BUT HOW MANY WERE OUT THERE WHEN THIS THING STARTED TO HAPPEN? THE RESPONSE TIMES DIFFERENT.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE H S CAME FROM BUT WE WORK WELL WITH OTHER AGENCYS BUT RESPONSE TIME IS CRITICAL IF ONE IS IN THE SHOP OR TIED UP WE HAVE NO WAY TO RES RESPOND. SO ONCE AGAIN I'LL BRING IT TO TO YOUR ATTENTION. THESE ARE NEED AND NOT WANTS.

YOU DON'T NEED IT ALL THE TIME BUT WHEN YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED IT AND HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THAT OURS IS IN THE SHOP.

>> IF WE CAN FIND $450 THOUSAND. REMOVING THAT $300,000 ON THAT COMMAND CENTER WOULD HELP TO GET THERE.

>> NEXT? WHAT ELSE?

>> KEEP ON TRUCKING? >> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

>> IT'S BEEN REMOVED AND THE ONLY MOTION WOULD BE TO PUT IT

BACK IN. >> ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO 5 500-8-76060 THIS IS VEHICLES AGAIN.

>> ARE WE JUMPING OVER TO DETENTION?

>> I DON'T HAVE A REQUEST FOR DETENTION.

>> WHAT DIVISION? >> COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

YOU WANT TO TABLE THAT UNTIL THE OTHER VEHICLES ARE DISCUSSED OR

GO FORWARD? >> YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT

CHANGED IN HERE? >> WE'RE TRYING TO GET A VEHICLE FOR THE SUPERVISOR AND THE SERGEANT.

>> NO. YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

>> THERE'S NOT ONE BUDGETED, RIGHT?

>> WE'RE MAXED-OUT ON VEHICLES. >> IT'S STUFF THAT'S RED-LINED.

>> OKAY. SO WHO HAS A VEHICLE RIGHT NOW

FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY? >> LE TENANT AND ONE ROVER UNIT.

>> TO GO TO THE OTHER PLACES. >> THAT OFTEN GOES WITH THE ON

CALL PERSON. >> OKAY.

ANY ACTION? ON TO THE NEXT.

>> 100500.90.6592. >> 6, THIS IS EXCUSE ME,

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RECORDS. >> 6592 YOU SAID?

>> 6105. >> OKAY.

>> THE ONE BELOW THAT. EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

>> >> WE'RE ASKING 6 $75.00 SO OUR SUPERVISOR CAN KEEP ONE BEST PRACTICES FOR HER DEPARTMENT.

THESE ARE REQUIRED FOR REGISTRATION AND WRITTEN REQUEST. TECH TRAINING IS 350.

350 HERE. TC JI IS A TOTAL OF 2675 AND

APPROVED FOR 6 THOUSAND. >> OKAY.

>> THAT'S AN EDUCATION IN TRAINING.

>> YES, SIR. >> HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO ADD

TO IT? >> $675.

>> I MAKE THAT MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> DO YOU NEED THE LINE ITEM? ADD $650.

>> TOTAL OF 2075. >> 675? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADD $675 TO 10050090.6105 EDUCATION AND

TRAINING. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED? 675, RIGHT? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING, BEAR WITH ME AND YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD

DAY. >> HOLD ON WE HAVEN'T GONE

THROUGH DETENTION YET? >> I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNED WITH DETENTION? DO YOU, SIR?

>> YEAH. >> OKAY.

SORRY. 100550.

PAGE 730. WAIT.

THAT'S JUVENILE. >> THEY WANT TO ADD TWO MORE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF A NEW JAIL AND I THINK THIS YEAR WE CAN SAVE THAT MONEY AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

>> EDDIE? I KNOW YOU OVER SEE THAT PORTION OF IT.

>> LIEUTENANT THOMPSON. PRELIMINARY TALKS WERE DISCUSSED AND THIS A MUCH LARGER FACILITY. NEW FACILITY.

HOWEVER, ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THE EARLIER TALKS WAS TO BRING IN TWO JAILERS TO HELP MANAGE THIS.

I KNOW IT'S A NEW FACILITY AND LARGE FACILITY WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LABOR TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING AND

THE INMATES. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN FACILITATES FOR DETENTION CENTER?

YOU WANT A TOTAL OF FIVE? >> YES.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY FILL THAT JAIL UP SO I THINK THIS YEAR WE OUGHT TO SAVE THAT MONEY.

>> THE MAINTENANCE OF A SDWRAL DOESN'T HAVE DO WITH THE INMATES IN YOUR JAIL. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM AIR-CONDITIONING TO EVERYTHING.

>> I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT BUT I'M TALKING PEOPLE.

>> I KNOW ONE THING I ASKED TO KIND OF GIVE ME A LIFE-SPAN EXPECTANCY PLAN FOR THE BUILDINGS, WHERE ARE WE? THAT WOULD TELL US WHAT WE NEED ON MAINTENANCE AND FACILITATES AND WHAT WE DIDN'T. YEAH.

>> PLUS, IT'S A BRAND NEW FACILITY SO IT MIGHT NOT, HOPEFULLY DOESN'T REQUIRE, GO AHEAD AND SAY IT.

>> I MADE THAT COMMENT OUT LOUD, MA'AM.

SOME JOBS REQUIRE TWO PEOPLE TO DO IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND WALKED THAT FACILITY YET BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO WALK THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUILDING ITSELF.

ON TOP AND AROUND THE AREA, SO IF YOU HAVE TWO JOBS GOING ON AND REQUIRE MULTIPLE PEOPLE NOW YOU HAVE NOBODY THAT CAN HANDLE AN EMERGENCY SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT SASS HUGE FACILITY.

HUGE FACILITY AND YES IT IS NEW BUT EVERYTHING DOES NOT ALWAYS

WORK OUT IN NEW BUILDINGS. >> AND EVERYONE HAS A VEHICLE,

RIGHT? >> THE THREE DO, YES.

>> YOU ARE ASKING FOR TWO NEW VEHICLES.

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WHY DO THEY NEED THAT? >> IF THEY HAVE TO COME FROM THEIR HOUSE TO THE JAIL AT NIGHT.

>> FOR EMERGENCY ON CALL. >> WE HAVE THEM SCHEDULED ON CALL AND ON THE WEEKEND, SO MY MAINTENANCE PEOPLE WORK 24/7 ON

CALL ROTATION TIME STUFF. >> I WAS THINKING WE DON'T NEED THE VEHICLES BUT IF THEY ARE ON CALL.

>> THEY YES THEY COME FROM THEIR HOUSES AT NIGHT.

>> WHEN ARE WE GOING TO EVEN GET INTO THE JAIL? IT'S BETWEEN MARCH AND JUNE SO I THINK THAT IT'LL BE A WHILE BEFORE WE REALLY KNOW OR WE REALLY NEED THAT MANY BECAUSE WE WON'T BE THERE. FROM OCTOBER UNTIL AT LEAST

MARCH OR MAYBE JUNE. >> I THINK APRIL ONE IS PROBABLY FOR BUDGETING AND THINKING PURPOSES IS PROBABLY THE MOVE

IN. >> KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE JUDGE DID FOR SALARIES FOR JAILERS HE DID 6 MONTHS WITH THE INTENTION THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY BE HIRING AT THE 6 MONTH MARK DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE. WE CAN POSSIBLY DO THE SAME THING WITH FACILITATES SO IT'S FOR THE NEW JAIL AND NOT THE

CURRENT JAIL. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DON'T HIRE THE TWO MAINTENANCE PEOPLE AT THIS TIME UNTIL THEY GET IN

THE JAIL >> WE CAN'T MAKE THAT MOTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIRING AUTHORITY BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY THERE IS ONLY FUNDS FOR THIS MANY MONTHS OF HIRING THOSE

PEOPLE. >> AND NO VEHICLES.

>> IF THEY ARE ON CALL - >> I KNOW BUT CAN THOSE FUNDS BE PUT IN CONTINGENCY FOR WHEN WE WOULD NEED THEM?

>> THEY CAN BE. >> I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST AND I UNDERSTAND HE'S SAYING MARCH BUT WE HAVE A TRAINING PERIOD PRIOR TO SO IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT, CAN WE MAKE IT TO WHERE WE INCLUDE THE TRAINING PERIOD SO NEW MAINTENANCE WOULD BE WITHIN

THAT? >> IF THE FUNDS ARE IN CONTINGENCY YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY I'M READY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. CAN WE SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM? THE MONEY WILL BE THERE IF WE PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY

>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE REDUCE TWO NEW FACILITIES FOR THE JAIL SALARY TO 7 MONTH'S WITH A MONTH WORTH OF TRAINING

AND THAT'S MY MOTION >> WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT IN

CONTINGENCY. >> THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE THEM SO WE PAY THEM SEVEN MONTHS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO

COME. >> WHY CAN'T IT BE IN CONTINGENCY AND WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT? WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE JAIL IS GOING TO OPEN.

>> KIND OF THE SAME THING HONESTLY.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION. UP TO YOU.

WHICHEVER THAT YOU WANT. >> I'LL MOVE TO MOVE THE TWO FACILITY POSITIONS AND VEHICLES TO CONTINGENCY.

>> SECOND. >> ARE WE MOVING FULL YEARS? RIGHT NOW IT IS A FULL YEAR'S SALARY.

YOU WANT TO MOVE TO SEVEN MONTHS WORTH IN CONTINGENCY?

>> I'LL MOVE ALL OF IT. >> OKAY.

>> THEN I GUESS ONCE WE GET CLOSE AND KNOW THE OPENING, COME BACK AND WE'LL FUND THOSE POSITIONS.

SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? >> AYE.

>> THANK YOU. OTHER CONCERNED WITH DETENTION?

>> THAT MOTION PASSED. >> I'M GOOD WITH THE SHERIFF'S BUD BUDGET.

>> COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? >> I'M GOOD.

>> MR. HALL? >> I VOTED.

>> YOU HAVE ANY MORE CONCERNED? >> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER SOMERS? THANK YOU.

I'M PROUD TO BE YOUR SHERIFF AND PART OF THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THIS REGION AND THE STATE AND THE NATION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SHERIFF.

>> OKAY. WE GOT STUCK ON THAT ONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LIST.

WE'VE GOT JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT ONE.

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>> WELL, GOOD MORNING, I'M SORRY I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG DAY.

>> WE'RE JUST GLAD YOU ARE HERE. >> HOPE YOU ARE IN A GOOD MOOD.

I'LL LET HER SPEAK. >> I'M IN A GREAT MOOD.

>> I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE JP.

WE HAD A SOFTWARE TECHNICAL ISSUE AND THEY HAVE A COUPLE OFS IN EACH OF THEIR DIVISIONS THAT HAVE A MAGISTRATE STIPEND OF 4,000 FUNDED FROM THEIR TECH FUND AND IT DIDN'T GET CARRIED OVER WHEN WE APPLIED THE 2% SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE COUPLE OF CLERKS GET THAT ADDITIONAL 4,000 ADDED SO.

>> YOU REMOVED THE 4,000 DOLLAR STIPEND.

>> TO THEIR GENERAL FUND SO I THINK JP 1 LAST AN ADDITIONAL $8 THOUSAND. JP TWO HAS I BELIEVE JUST ONE.

NO. ONE, TWO, FOUR HAVE ADDITIONAL EIGHT THOUSAND AND THREE HAS FOUR.

>> WHEN WE DO THE SALARIES WE REMOVE THAT PART AND NEED TO

JUST ADD IT BACK IN. >> NOTHING ADDITIONAL BUT I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT.

JUST THE CLERK. >> DOES IT GO IN A SPECIFIC LINE

ITEM? >> WHERE?

>> IN A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM? >> GOING TO BE ON THEIR GENERAL

FUND. >> THEY DON'T HAVE A GENERAL

FUND. >> NO.

FUND. >> SALARY, EMPLOYEE FUND SO THAT

IS 1 0, FOR LIKE ONE. >> 5005 FOR THE J PS.

>> THEN DOES IT GO ON A SPECIFIC PERSON OR DO WE JUST MAKE THE

MOTION? >> WE'LL ATTACH IT TO THE PERSON IF YOU'LL HELP INCREASE THE BUDGET.

WHY THE DISCREPANCY? >> WAIT.

I THINK THE OTHER THREE ALREADY HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET.

>> SHOULD BE. IT'S NOT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THOSE AMOUNTS PLEASE?

>> WHAT IS IT? WHY IS YOU'RE 4,000?

>> WHEN WE FIRST TOOK OFFICE WE PUT IN FOR RAISES FOR THE GIRLS ON CALL AND AT THE TIME WE WERE SPLIT IN A CLERK SO SHE ASKED FOR THE 4,000. SO I WAS STICK WITH ONE OF THE 4, 4,000.

AND THIS COMES OUT OF A FUND. NOT OUR GENERAL?

>> JUSTICE FUND >> IS THERE MONEY IN THE TECH

FUND FOR THIS. >> SO THERE IS MONEY IN THE TECH FUND BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SOFTWARE SPLIT IT, IT TOOK IT.

>> THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. IS THERE MONEY TO DO IT?

>> YES. >> PERFECT.

>> BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S ADDED TO THE 100, 300.

>> I GET IT. >> NOT TO THEIR TECH FUND

>> I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE J PS ON THEIR LINE ITEM 5005 TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $8 THOUSAND ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> SAY THAT AGAIN. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT FOR JP 1, 2, 3, 4 ON THEIR 5005 TO ADD $8,000.

>> FOR EACH JP. >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? ANY APPOSED?

MOTION PASSES. >> BUT THAT DOES NOT AFFECT OUR NUMBERS FOR GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? IT INCREASES IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO REDUCE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE?

>> IT INCREASES IT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REDUCE IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

>> PERFECT. JUST MAKING SURE

>> ORIGINALLY WE HAD MET WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER HALL AND COMMISSIONER VILLELA.

WE HAD MET WITH YOU AND SHOWED YOU MY NUMBERS.

I HAVE NUMBERS AND I CAN PASS THEM OUT TO YOU.

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WHAT THAT MEANS IS, YOU ARE LOOKING AT $6700 CASES EXPECTED COUNTY-WIDE BETWEEN ALL THE JP'S AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CIVIL DOCKET INVOLVES MORE THAN EVICTIONS AND DEBT CLAIMS AND SMALL CLAIMS AND APPEALS AND OCCUPATIONAL DRIVERS LICENSE. TRIALS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

CURRENTLY I HELP THE CIVIL CLERK WITH ALL OF THE MAIL.

IT IS OVERWHELMING. IT DEFINITELY WOULD HELP US BASICALLY TO FUNCTION BETTER. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR I'M HEARING ALL THE THOUSANDS FROM EARLIER THE CIVIL CLERK IS MOVING HER FROM A 14 AND THEN STEPS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY YEAR AND STUFF. THAT'S WHAT THAT GOES FOR AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE GRADE AND ALSO, I'M GIVING YOU A BUNCH OF STUFF. THE CRIMINAL CLERK AND ALSO THE CASELOAD HAS INCREASED AND THAT'S UP FRONT.

TAKING PHONE CALLS AND PAYMENTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF SO GOING BACK TO THE CIVIL THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR I HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS AND I BELIEVE THE TWO COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN NUMBER, SO WE UPDATED THEM. IN MY PRECINCT, SHOWING YOU OUR CURRENT NUMBERS. THANK YOU.

THIS TELLS YOU -

>> PAGE 338. >> 338.

>> PAGE 338. >> AS YOU SEE IN MINE, WE'RE GETTING ANYWHERE FROM 150 CASES OF CIVIL A MONTH.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE AVERAGE. AS OF RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 1295 CASES AND WE'RE NOT EVEN THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR.

THAT WAS WHAT WE GOT LAST YEAR SO I DO NEED THE HELP.

I'M OVERWHELMED. OUR CIVIL CLERK IS TO OVERWHELMED AND THE ADMINISTRATOR TRIES TO HELP AND THE CRIMINAL CLERK HAS BEEN PULLED ONLY SOME THINGS IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT JOB.

AND I BELIEVE BECAUSE MIDLAND IS GROWING SO PEOPLE WANT TO BRING SMALL CLAIMS AND WRITS AND THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT.

WE ALSO HAVE WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE GOT TO WAIT 10 OR 15 DAYS

THERE'S LAWS. >> FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NONE OF THEM CAME FOR THE J P'S OR DID THEY

GET SOME NEW EMPLOYEE? >> FOR JP ONE SPECIFICALLY THE CIVIL CLERK WAS NOT APPROVED BUT THE INCREASE FOR THE SENIOR

CIVIL CLERK DID GO UP 8%. >> DO THEY GET A CRIMINAL CLERK

ADDED OR NO? >> WE WERE ASKING FOR HER TO GET A RAISE SINCE IT HAS GONE UP. WE WERE NOT GOING TO ASK.

IF YOU GIVE US ONE WE'LL ASK BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE HOW

THIS YEAR PLAYS OUT. >> WERE ANY CLERKS ADDED?

>> NONE WERE ADDED. NO NEW CLERKS.

AND SO YA'LL WANT NEW CLERK. DID YOU START OFF ON TUESDAY?

>> I'M SORRY? >> DID YOU START ON TUESDAY?

>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE CLOSED. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO THE

>> I DID ASK IF Y'ALL COULD OPEN BETWEEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION TO

OCTOBER. >> I TOLD COUNTY IF YOU COULD

GIVE ME A CLERK TO HELP YOU OUT. >> IN OCTOBER BUT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE TO SHOW WHEN YOU WOULD OPEN UP.

>> WE BE CAN'T SAY YES, OR NO. WE BE DON'T HAVE THE BODY.

WE BE CAN'T PROMISE YOU YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO LOOK AT THAT SITUATION, BUT WE BE DON'T MOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR EACH ONE OF US TO HIRE THAT

[02:35:05]

POSITION. >> THAT WASN'T MY REQUEST.

>> WHEN I SPOKE TO COMMISSION ANDERSON YEAH, WE WILL LOOK AT IT. THOSE CLERKS GET SWAMPED.

RIGHT NOW WE CROSS-TRAIN, BUT ALL OF OUR CLERKS, GOT CROSS TRAINING ON THE CIVIL AND THE CRIMINAL, JUST IN CASE.

RIGHT FEW, I'VE GOT ONE ON VACATION.

ANOTHER ONE, HER SON HAD A MOTORCYCLE WRECK AND IS IN ICU IN DESSA. THE OTHER ONE HAS A APPOINTMENTS THAT SHE HAS TO HAVE FOR THE SCHOOL, SINCE SCHOOL STARTED.

CANDY IS, I HAVE ONE PERSON AT THE OFFICE.

I HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW. FIXING TO DROP DOWN TO ONE FOR THE DAY. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THE TIME WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN BECAUSE OF STAFFING, TRAINING ISSUES AND SO FORTH. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE HOURS ON THOSE TUESDAY AFTERNOONSES, GETTING A NEW CIVIL CLERK. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE IMMEDIATE.

WE CAN'T SAY IT WILL BE IMMEDIATE.

>> MY REQUEST WHEN I MET WITH THE OTHER JPS I DID NOT MEET WITH YOU JUDGE BARTON IF THEY CAN SHOW HE WILL OPEN UP BETWEEN THE MOMENT WE HAD THE CAN CONVERSATION TO OCTOBER, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THEM. THEY SAID WE WILL TRY AND THEY WILL DO IT AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

>> IT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW. >> IT IS TUESDAY AFTERNOONS I HAVE ONE PERSON. SHE HAS TO HANDLE THE DESK.

SHE HAS TO HANDLE THOSE THAT COME IN.

>> I WAS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT MY REQUEST WITH THE OTHER

JP. >> THAT IS THE WHOLE DEAL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED TO GO BACK.

ORIGINALLY WHEN SOMETIMES MONDAY MONDAY A LOT WILL COME IN ON TUESDAY WE CHOSE TO SHUTDOWN THAT AFTERNOON SO THE CLERKS COULD FOCUS ON HOUSE KEEPING AND GETTING EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF. IF WE GET A NEW CIVIL CLERK, YES, WE WILL ENTERTAIN AND OPEN THOSE HOUR AFTER WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

IN THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE BE AWARE OF THAT SOME OF THE OFFICES MAY BE CLOSED SOME MAY BE OPEN. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THAT. WITH THE NEW CIVIL CLERK WE WILL LOOK AT THAT WE CAN'T MAKE YOU A PROMISE BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO STEP ON YOUR TOWS TOES. I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN AN OFFICE. I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN AND SUPERVISE. I'VE DONE THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN DO THAT BUILDS MORALE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY, BECAUSE OF PRIVATE COMPANIES GO CERTAIN THINGS.

SO THIS WAS A MORALE BOOSTER, BUT IT WAS MORE GENERALLY TO GET EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF. SCHEDULE THE APPOINTMENTS SO WE DON'T HAVE A LACK OF ANYONE BEING AT THAT JP COUNTER.

>> JUDGE BARTON I'M WONDERING IF BECAUSE OF OUR SHORTFALL IN OUR BUDGET, THAT THOSE WERE NOT APPROVEED.

SO, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T AFFORD THE LUXURY LIKE YOU SAY OF HAVING THAT. BUT CAN WE LOOK AND SEE WHERE AFTER ALL OF THESE CHANGES, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE LAND BUT IN ALL HONESTY OUR BUDGET IS GOING TO BE REALLY TIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE BEING ELIMINATED OR THINGS ARE NOT BEING APPROVED ON MY PART. BECAUSE I'M VERY COGNIZANT ABOUT WHERE OUR REB KNEWS ARE, AND REVENUES ARE AND WHERE THEY WILL BE. JUST KNOW THAT'S WHERE I'M

COMING FROM. >> ANOTHER THING I WAS THINKING WE MIGHT ENTERTAIN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET TO STREAM LINE.

THAT WE GIVE PART-TIME NOT PAYING ALL OF THE EXTRA

BENEFITS. >> LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT

HAPPENS. >> THEN, IF THAT PERSON IS IN THE DOOR AND TRAINING AND WORKING GOOD, THEN WE CAN LOOK TO MAYBE FULL-TIME. LIKE A PROMOTION-TYPE DEAL.

>> OKAY. >> I'M SORRY, NOT TO BUT IN BUT I NEED A FULL TIME. MY JUVENILE CLERK AND ADMIN, EVERYONE IS HELPING. WE'RE OVERWHELMED.

IF YOU ELECTRIC, I GAVE Y'ALL IF YOU LOOK, IT SHOWS YOU EVERYTHING THE CIVIC CLERK HAS TO DO AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW I PULLED IT FROM THE TRAINING CENTER.

IT IS A LOT. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.

IT IS NOT A CASE THAT ONCE YOU GET IT, IT IS DONE.

IT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED AND PREPARED FOR OUR CONSTABLES IN ORDER FOR OUR CONSTABLES TO SERVE IT.

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HONESTLY RIGHT NOW I'M ASKING FOR ONE MORE TO HELP.

BECAUSE THAT'S WAS I NEED. I DON'T KNOW IF NEXT YEAR MAYBE I REALIZE IT IS OVERWHELMED AS YOU SEE IT IS GROWING.

PRECINCT. WEST SIDE MIDLAND IS GETTING HUGE. I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE ONE CLERK THAT'S TRYING TO. IT IS ICTEROID THAT OR I LET THE CRIMINAL SIDE PULL THAT CLERK TO DO THE CRIMINAL WORK, THE CIVIL WORK. IF I DO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. SHE HANDLES THE FELONY STUFF.

RIGHT NOW I'M ON CALL. I'M SURE I HAVE ONE WAITING FOR ME. AM I GOING TO PULL HER TO DO A CIVIL TO SAY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT BE THAN THIS? THAT'S WHERE I'M AT AND WHY I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER CLERK.

I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THAT POSITION.

>> SO GOING BACK TO WHAT I TOLD THE SHERIFF.

IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

AGAIN, I DID YOU BETWEEN THE LAST CONVERSATION IN OCTOBER AND I SAID IF YOU DID THAT I WOULD BE YOUR ADVOCATE.

NOW, IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE DO HAVE TO CUT, BEFORE WE CAN ADD TO THE BUDGET.

>> CAN I ASK YOU ONE THING? IS THIS, ARE YOU GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT BEING CLOSED? OR IS IT.

>> I AM. >> OR IS IT PERSONAL.

>> NO I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GOES ON TUESDAY.

>> LET ME SPEAK. EVERYBODY WE DEAL WAS UNDERSTAND HOW WE OPERATE OUR OFFICE. WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE CAN DECIDE. I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT I DON'T LIKE YOU BEING CLOSED? ARE YOU GETTING HUNDREDS OR FEW COMPLAINTS OR THOUSANDS? WHY ARE THOSE NOT RELAYED TO US AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL?

>> I COMMUNITIED WITH THE JUDGES OVER THIS.

>> COMMUNICATING IS ONE THING. HOW ABOUT A NUMBER.

>> WILL YOU GIVE AT THE A SET. LET ME FISH.

I FINISH. SAYING I TRY TO DO THIS EVICTION OR TRY TO DO A TICKET TO PAY FOR IT.

THE OTHER SIDE I TRIED TO TURN IN THE, THE EVICTION AND BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T OPEN ON TUESDAY IT MOVED MY TIMELINE FOR THOSE EVICTIONS SOME I HAVE PEOPLE THAT CALL ME.

I HAVE EITHER ATTORNEYS. I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THEM CALLED ME DIRECTLY SEVERAL TIMES, BECAUSE IT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR A MORE, UNTIL THEY HAD THE PAPERWORK TO DO IT CORRECTLY. THEY'RE AN ATTORNEY.

THEY'RE LIKE WE DID THIS PAPERWORK IT.

WASN'T RECEIVED AND SHOWED UP AND HAD TO CHANGE THE CASHIERS CHECK. I HAVE A LOT OF ATTORNEYS OR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTIESES THAT TELL ME WE TRY TO GO ON TUESDAY AND THEY'RE NOT THERE.

>> BECAUSE IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE OUR HOURS OF BUSINESS.

>> YOU ASKED IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS I ANSWERED.

>> I I NEVER PERSONALLY RECEIVED AND BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER, ALL DUE RESPECTS AND HAD NEVER A SINGLE PROBLEM.

I WANT TO KNOW IF IT IS JUST SOMETHING YOU'RE DOING.

IF YOU DO. THIS IS FOR ANYONE.

IF YOU GET ANY COMPLAINTS. DON'T ANSWER THOSE COMPLAINTS.

SEND THEM TO US. WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LET

US DEAL WITH THAT. >> I WILL TELL YOU HOW I TELL PEOPLE WHAT MY JOB. MY JOB IS HELP MID L.A.P.D COUNTY MIDLAND COUNTY. AND RESIDENTS.

I AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER DO NOT PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC SERVICE, BUT EVERYONE ELSE DOES. SO I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

WHEN WE CLOSE OUR OFFICES, WE CAN'T PROVIDE SERVICES.

>> OKAY. BUT WE ARE PROVIDING SERVICES.

I THINK YOU THINK THAT WE JUST TAKE OFF AND WE DISAPPEAR, BOTAS

NOT WHAT WE DO. >> I DON'T THINK THAT.

>> WE WILL OPEN, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM.

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER 0 YEARS. THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO CLARIFY. WHO IS COMPLAINING AND WHAT ARE THEY COMPLAINING ABOUT. IF IT IS DIRECTED TO MY PRECINCT MY DOORS ARE OPEN. I HAD PEOPLE COME OFF OF THE STREETS AND DISCUSSED IT. THEY LEFT WITH A CLEARER MIND ON THE SITUATION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

THAT'S ALL I WAS WANTING TO KNOW.

>> PERFECT. >> SO TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION FROM PRECINCT 1, I'M CLOSING, BECAUSE I NEED THE HELP.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT YOU GIVE ME THE HELP.

I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO STRUGGLE.

BUT THAT'S GIVING ME THE HELP. THAT'S WHAT I TOLD YOU AND I ALWAYS KEEP MY WORD. YES, SIR, I WILL OPEN.

>> PERFECT. >> WE CAN FIND SOME MONEY.

>> RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON, BECAUSE YOU SAYING BUDGET ISSUES. EVERY TIME WE BRING THIS BEFORE Y'ALL. YOU SAY WAIT UNTIL BUDGET TIME, WAIT FOR BUDGET TIME. IT IS CONNECT BACK, KICKBACK.

WE CAN OPEN. WE CAN DO ALL OF THE STUFF.

YOU DON'T GIVE ME THE PERSON I WILL STILL HAVE STUFF LAYING THERE AND TIEING TO KEEP UP WITH PAPERWORK, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME THE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO DO MY JOB.

AND I'M NOT BEING VERY RESPECTFUL RIGHT NOW BY SAYING

[02:45:04]

I KNOW YOU COME TO OUR OFFICE ALL THE TIME.

I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD SIT WITH OUR CIVIL CLERKS AND SEE THEIR PAPERWORK AND THE STACK. THEN MAYBE SIT IN OUR CROOM AND WATCH HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. THAT WOULD REALLY HELP US.

>> I VISIT Y'ALL. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT FOR IT.

WE NEED TO REDUCE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO FIND THE MONEY.

AND IF WE CAN FIND THAT I'M GLADLY TO DO THAT I WANT Y'ALL TO OPEN UP ON TUESDAYS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT MIDLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS DESERVE RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE I CAN FINE THE MONEY. IT IS A BUDGET PROCESS AND WE

WILL FINE IT. >> THEN TAKE THE PAPERWORK.

IT WILL SIT THERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CLERKS TO WORK ON IT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT OKAY. SO I GUESS WITHOUT WASTING ANYBODY ELSE'S TIME. IF I ASK FOR THE SENIOR CLERK TO BE MOVED , BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN. BECAUSE SHE IS OVERWHELMED I WOULD STILL LIKE HER TO MOVE UP TO A GRADE 14 BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL CONTINUE TO DUMP ON HER.

SHE'S AT A 12, SIR. >> I'M SHOWING THE SENIOR CIVIL CLERK IS GOING FROM A 1255 TO A 1275.

THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. >> THAT'S A 12, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, LET ME JUST, TELL YOU THIS IS ALL OF YOUR WORK, BUT I WILL

DOUBLE YOUR WORK. >> IT IS STILL.

>> IT IS 4. >> IT IS STILL, IT IS STILL THE 8 PERCENT INCREASE THOUGH. IT IS JUST KEEPING THEM IN THE

SAME GRADE. >> IT IS GO UP 251.

>> IT IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN YOU REQUESTED STILL IN THE GRADE

12 RATHER THAN THE 14 JUDGE. >> SO AS LONG AS SHE'S GETTING HER PAY, I FEEL LIKE THAT, AND THEN THE CRIMINAL CLERK, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN SEE AND OTHERS WE CAN'T SEE.

IT DOES SAY SHE'S CURRENTLY AT A 12, WITH A STEP 1.5.

AND I'M REQUESTING TO GO TO A 13.

BECAUSE SHE IS HANDLING MORE PHONE CALLS, MORE EVERYTHING.

SHE'S THE PERSON THAT THEY COME TO.

>> THE CRIMINAL CLERK. >> THE CRIMINAL CLERK AND THE

SENIOR CLERK. >> THIS IS A --

>> IT IS THE CRIMINAL CLERK. IT IS THE ONE AT THE FRONT.

>> THE ONE AT THE WINDOW. >> IT SAYS SENIOR CRIMINAL

CLERK. >> JUR JP 1 SENIOR CLERK IS

MOVING FROM A 12.15. >> IT IS THE REGULAR CRIMINAL CLERK. WITHOUT WOULD BE LAST NAME TM.

AND WHAT IS -- >> THAT'S THE AMOUNT I HAVE.

>> IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE 2 PERCENT.

>> THAT'S A 4 PERCENT. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WAS REQUESTING I REALLY NEED THAT CIVIL CLERK.

I REALLY HOPE YOU CAN ALL HELP ME OUT THERE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> LET'S GO TO VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND JP1.

THEY'RE GIVING THEIR CARS UP. THERE'S 1674 IN VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CARS.

>> WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT AMOUNT?

>> SO YEAH, YOU'RE TAKING THE CARS.

WHY NOT, CAN'T YOU COUNT THAT AS GIVING ME MY CIVIL CLERK?

>> IT IS 1100. >> YOU SAID WHERE DO I GET THE

MONEY FROM. >> IF I CAN 46,000 SOMEWHERE

ELSE. >> YOU TAKE THAT OFF, THAT'S ABOUT, I CAN'T DO THE MATH, IT IS ABOUT $30,000.

>> I'M ONLY ASKING FOR $30,000. NOT ASKING FOR $100,000.

>> I THINK IT WILL BE EASIER TO FIND THAT MONEY.

I'M TELLING YOU DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WILL REMOVE AND ADD, WE CAN POSSIBLY FOUND THAT IT IS JUST I HAVEN'T REMOVED IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND

IT. >> COMMISSIONER, NOT TO BITE YOUR EARS OFF, YOU'RE KIND OF CONTRADICTED YOURSELF WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO THE SHERIFF OFFICE ABOUT GIVING THEM VEHICLES AND THEY'RE ON CALL, WE'RE ALL ON CALL.

>> SO. >> I DIDN'T?

>> THEY ARE. >> HEY, GUESS WHAT.

>> WHILE YOU'RE SLEEPING AND, ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS, WE'RE AT

WORK. >> GUESS WHAT, THOSE VEHICLES

WENT TO. >> I'M JUST SAYING.

AT 2:00 AND 3:00 IN THE MORNING YOUR CLERKS AREN'T GETTING OUT AND DOING THE WORK. MY CLERK IS.

>> HEY THE DISTRICT JUDGES ARE ON CALL.

>> I LOVE MY JOB AND THE CLERK LOVES HER JOB, BUT IT IS

[02:50:03]

SIR. >> SO I ACTUALLY, VERONICA HOW DO WE DO THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE? YOU GET A LUMP-SUM AND SPLIT IT WITH THE VEHICLES?

>> WHEN WE GAVE THAT THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT THAT NEEDED TO BE SPREAD OUT WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS WE FAILED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THOSE VEHICLES WOULD BE GONE.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE THEM A SHARE OF THE AMOUNT, BUT THOSE

NEED TO BE REMOVED. >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> IF YOU WOULD THAT WOULD HELP US OUT.

>> ON PRECINCT 1, 2, 3, AND 4, ON 6235, REMOVE 1674.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES. >> WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE

CARS I WOULD SPEAK ABOUT. >> I HAVE A BIG SPREADSHEET.

ONCE I FIND THE MONEY I WILL SHOOT YOU A TEXT SO, YOU CAN

COME BACK. >> WE'RE ALSO HERE FOR WATER.

THE RUNNING WATER LINE. >> SURE.

>> SHERIFF, DID YOU WANT TO STEP IN?

>> WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS

GOING TO TALK ABOUT. >> I APOLOGIZE, I HAD A LITTLE, WHAT'S THAT GUY'S NAME RUSSELL INSURANCE LUTHER MOMENT. BUT, THIS IS FOR CIU CRISIS INTERVENTION UNIT.

>> SORRY. 100, 500.5005.

>> PAGE, 601. >> CID, CIU.

NUMBER 70 IS THE BIG ONE. WE GOOD?

>> PAGE 608. >> CURRENTLY TWO FULL TIME CIU SPECIALISTS ON CALL 24/7. WE'RE ASKING TO ADD TWO MORE TO GRADE 12 STEP ONE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 2025 TO OCTOBER 2026. THEY RECEIVED 710 CALLS FOR SERVICE IT AVERAGES TWO OR THREE CALLS A DAY.

THE CALL LINES CAN OCCURRED ANY TIME IN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD.

CALL CAN BE FROM A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE WORK HOURS ARE MONDAY TO FRIDAY.

8:00 TO 5:00. DUTIES AND CALL OUT DUTIES AND PUBLIC RELATIONS TO VICTIMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

OUR CIU HANDLES ALL OF THE CALLS FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

>> 60,9000. >> SIR, THOSE POSITIONS ARE

ALREADY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. >> THE ADDITIONAL TWO ARE?

PROPOSED. >> NEVER MINDED.

>> NO, EVEN BETTER. >> WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE

TENSION AND IT WON'T TAKE LONG. >> WHAT IS 50?

>> SORRY, THANK YOU VERONICA. >> PAGE 2.

IT IS ADDITIONAL JAILORS. I'M SHOWING 12 JAILORS.

AND FOUR BOOKING SPECIALISTS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT TO

CONTINGENCY. >> WHY?

>> BECAUSE THAT JAIL IS NOT GOING TO BE READY TO BE 800 PEOPLE THE FIRST TIME. HE'S GOT 20 OPENINGS RIGHT NOW.

>> I AGREE WITH HIM IN THAT ONE. IF YOU CAN HIRE THOSE PEOPLE AND FILL IT UP, COME BACK AND WE CAN ADD MOREDO INTO YOUR BUDGET F WE

PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY. >> VERONECA?

>> CONTINGENCY. >> YEAH.

IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >> YES.

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? >> COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION,

PLEASE. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT 12 JAILORS AND 4 BOOKING CLERKS BE MOVED FROM DETENTION BUDGET TO

CONTINGENCY. >> SECOND.

>> THE MOTION IS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? >> THE MOTION PASSES.

>> THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. JUDGE BILLEC.

>> SO, I WAS BASICALLY ASKING THE SAME THING.

PRECINCT 1. SO, WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL OUR COMMISSION STATED, BUT MY ONLY CERN AS STATED EARLIER THE

[02:55:05]

SAME. >> YOU WANT A NEW CRIMINAL

CLERK. >> CIVIL.

>> I'M WRITING NOTES. THAT'S WHY.

>> CIVIL CLERK. >> AND THEN, WHAT IS IT THE STEP IN GRADE FOR THAT NEW CIVIL THAT Y'ALL ARE REQUESTING?

>> 14.1, 12.1. >> 12.1 WAS FOR THE CIVIL,

YES,ING, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> PERFECT. >> STILL ON 17.

>> THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

>> WE'LL BE HERE UNTIL TOMORROW. >> RUSSELL, HOW MANY DAYS CAN

WE, STAY ON ONE AGENDA? >> ONE MORE.

>> WELL. >> SUMMERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

BE QUICKER. >> I HEAR YOU.

>> JUST ON THE CIVIL CLERK THERE WAS LIKE 6 PERCENT INCREASE.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FOUR,000 STIPEN IS ON TOP OF THEIR SALARY. 4,000 IS ON TOP OF THEIR SALARY,

NOT AS PART. >> OKAY, JUDGE CAN JOLLIFYING OUT AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMEONE ELSE TO THE NEXT ONE.

>> YOU'RE READY. >> COMMISSIONER, IT IS THE SAME THING. I WANTED TO VERIFY, BECAUSE THE SALARIES WERE IN CORRECT. THEY WERE LOWER, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE AT THE SAME.

>> OKAY. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY OR GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT AM I UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW THE NEW CLERK IS ON PAUSE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> THE NEXT QUESTION WAS THE SENIOR CRIMINAL CLERK. EXCUSE ME THE SENIOR CIVIL CLERK WAS HER NAME CHANGED? WAS THAT TITLE NAME CHANGED AND APPROVED WITH HER PAY GRADE BEING CHANGED FROM A 12.55 TO A 14.55? WAS THAT ON THE BUDGET? I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE LOOKED AT.

>> YOUR SENIOR CIVIL CLERK? >> YES, DID THE CIVIL CLERK FROM

12.55 TO A 14.55. >> NO THERE'S A 12.75.

. >> BUT AGAIN, WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE. I THINK HER TITLE IS STILL SENIOR BUT WAS WANTING TO MOVE HER TO THAT 14.55.

[03:00:09]

>> SHE'S CURRENTLY AT A 14.55. >> TO THE GRADE 13.

>> 23 TO 26? >> WAS IT ON THERE?

>> OKAY, JUDGE BARTON. >> YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND I WANT TO SAVE SOME TIME. THESE ARE ISSUES WE CAN BRING

BACK UP. >> CAN Y'ALL FIGURE IT UP AND

BRING IT BACK UP. >> YEAH, MY PRIMARY WAS THE NEW CIVIL CLERK. UNTIL WE CAN GET THE-- UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT IN POSITION, WE WILL STAY THE SAME WAY WE'RE STAYING RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE ONLY ETHICAL.

[23. Discuss and take action appointing Emanuel Badillo Roque as Deputy Constable Courthouse Security for the Constable of Precinct 3.]

>> THANK YOU. SO I'VE HAD A REQUEST THAT WE PAUSE THIS FOR A MINUTE. THE PROPOSED BUDGET ISSUES, AND JUMP TO NUMBER 23 A23 TO GET SOME FOLKS WAITING AROUND FOR THIS TO, GET THEM TO DO WAS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TO BE DOING.

ITEM 23 DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION A POINT EMANNULE PEDO,AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR THE CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT 3.

>> YES, SIR. SO, I'VE DONE THE BACKGROUND.

I HAVE EVERYTHING DONE. ALL I NEED IS YOUR POSITION TO HIRE HIM I BROUGHT HIM AND CAN INTRODUCE YOU AS WELL.

HE'S IN THE BLUE SHIRT. THAT'S WHO I'M REQUESTING FOR

Y'ALL. >> JERRY, I MAKE THE MOTION TO ALLOW CONSTABLE PRESINK 3 TO HIRE EMANUEL ROCHE AS DEPUTY

CONSTABLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY. >> I CAN SEND HIM OFF TO GET THE

OTHER STUFF NOW. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR A AYE I.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> MOTION PASSES. >> WE CAN JUMP TO 25, 24 IS

[25. Discuss and take action appointing Raul Ernest Barraza as Deputy Constable Courthouse Security for the Constable of Precinct 1.]

SOMETHING ELSE. >> NOW WE MOVE TO ITEM 25.

DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION APPOINTING RAUL BOREOSA AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR CONSTABLE OF

PRECINCT 1. >> CONSTABLE IN PRECINCT 1 HERE TO PRESENT RAUL BORASSA FOR COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

>> MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE, RAUL BORASSA AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR PRECINCT 1.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE?

>> ANY OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND 26.

>> OKAY. ITEM 26 DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION

[26. Discuss and take action appointing Martin Rodriguez as Deputy Constable Courthouse Security for the Constable of Precinct 2.]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I DID NOT BRING MARTIN WITH ME TODAY. I'M JUST ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO HIRE HIM. HE HAS 7 YEARS TOTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. AND HIS INTERMEDIATE LICENSE.

>> YOU CAN MAKE IT. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2 TO HIRE MARTIN RODRIGUEZ AS DEPUTY

CONSTABLE COURTHOUSE SECURITY. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. YOU WANT TO DO 20?

>> LET'S GET ALL OF THE QUICK ONES OUT.

>> WHAT IS IT? >> 20.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL JUMP AROUND HERE.

[20. Discuss and take action on a budget amendment in the amount of $25,555.37 for Justin Bunch TEMAT deployment from February 20 through February 28, 2026. (Part 1 of 2)]

>> AND THEN, THIS IS JUST REFUNDING.

>> REQUEST THE AUDITORS OFFICE. HAS TO DO WITH THE BUDGETING.

BUT YEAH, IT IS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

THE THEY JUST HAVE TO SEND US THE CHECK.

[03:05:02]

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION

[17. Discuss and take action on requests from Department Heads and Elected Officials on Midland County Proposed Budget. (Part 2 of 5)]

PASSES. >> HIT 21.

>> 21 LOOKS LIKE AN EASY ONE. >> YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS.

>> ALL RIGHT, STILL LOOKING AT IT WAS MISSED FOR THE CRIMINAL CLERK TO BE EVEN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER JPS.

THE CRIMINAL CLERK WAS AT 1.5 AND SET TO BE EVEN WITH THE OTHER JP1, AND 3, SHE WOULD NEED TO BE AT A 12.65 MISSED.

>> IS THAT BECAUSE OF TIME THEY'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY.

>> SHE'S BEEN THERE LONGER, YES. >> SO, SARA WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> IT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.

>> OKAY. BE.

>> WHAT'S THE LINE ITEM NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE?

>> 300.025005. SO WE'RE NEEDING TO ADD IT FOR A

POSITION 30220022. >> YES,.

>> HOW MUCH, WHAT ARE WE NEED TO DO?

IN INCREASE THE STEP? >> WHAT THE IS THE FINAL STEP,

JUDGE? >> IT IS 12.65 TO MAKE IT EVEN

WITH ONE AND THREE. >> OKAY I MAKE A MOTION FOR EMPLOYEE 30222002 TO INCREASE TO A 12.6.5.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? >> THE MOTION PASSES.

>> THANK YOU. >> VERONICA WHAT'S THE DOLLAR

VALUE WE'RE INCREASING? >> WHAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE TO

PUT IT ON MY SPREADSHEET? >> I DON'T KNOW THE VALUE OF THAT. $412.65.

IT IS A 6 PERCENT INCREASE. >> JUDGE BARTON.

>> JUDGE BARTON DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL?

>> YOU'RE GOOD? >> I WAS CHECKING SOME NUMBERS

THERE. >> IS IT 55176.

>> I'M SORRY. WE WANTED TO LOOK AT 53.

YOU HAD IN THERE TO DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION, TRANSFER AND EQUIPMENT AND FURNISHING. WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING. IT IS KIND OF LIKE, ONCE WE GET THERE, WE KNOW WE WILL STILL NEED TO PURCHASE SOME STUFF.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW YOU WANTED TO HANDLE IT AND THEN WE'LL BE OUT

OF YOUR HAIR. >> YES.

>> WHICH ITEM? >> 53.

>> I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE.

>> IT IS $42,000 AND $49,000, COMMISSIONER.

BUT CURRENTLY IT IS BUDGETED AT $45,000.

>> SORRY, $45,000, AND IT IS $49,054 $49000 AND SOME CHANGE.

>> ON YOUR, CAN WE RECALL NUMBER 20?

>> 20. >> YES, SIR.

[20. Discuss and take action on a budget amendment in the amount of $25,555.37 for Justin Bunch TEMAT deployment from February 20 through February 28, 2026. (Part 2 of 2)]

>> OKAY. >> ITEM 20 DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,555.37 FOR

JUSTIN BUNCH. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AMENDED WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US IS NOT CORRECT.

CAN WE TABLE THAT SO, WE CAN WORK WITH JUSTIN'S DEPARTMENT

AND GET THAT CORRECTED PLEA? >> SO WE MADE A MOTION AND A

SECOND? >> WE VOTED ON IT.

>> SO, CAN, WE NEED TO REMOVE. >> RECALL IT.

>> DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO RESCIND THE INITIAL?

>> YEAH. >> WE ARE IN AGREANCE.

SO WE MADE A MOTION, A SECOND AND VOTED ON IT.

AND AUDITORS IS ASKING US, THEY DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TO DO SOME STUFF ON THE BECOME.

BACKGROUND. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW

MY INITIAL MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION FOR WHAT?

>> FOR THIS TELE. FOR THIS LINE ITEM.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE I ANY OPPOSED?

>> THE MOTION PASSES. >> CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO

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>> WE'RE GOING TO GO UNTIL 1:00. >> OKAY.

PERFECT, 1:00 TO 2:15 WILL BE LUNCH TODAY.

>> WE HAVE TO KNOCK SOME MORE OF THIS STUFF OUT.

>> JUDGE BARTON ARE YOU DONE? >> ABOUT ITEM 53 YOU WERE GOING

TO TALK ABOUT IT OR DISCUSS IT. >> WE'LL BRING IT BACK.

WE'LL DO T WHEN IT IS ON THE AGENDA.

I NEED TO TALK TO HIM IN EXECUTIVE.

>> YOU WILL RETABLE IT OR DISCUSS IT?

>> ONCE WE GET TO T WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT AFTER EXECUTIVE.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE NEEDED ANY INPUT, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE STUFF TO DO BACK AT OUR OFFICE. THAT'S WHY I WAS BRINGING IT UP.

>> WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO. WE CAN CALL IT NOW, IF YOU WANT

TO. >> I'M HERE.

>> I WANT TO TALK AFTER EXECUTIVE ON IT.

>> OKAY. WE'LL JUST, WE'LL SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> DISCUSSING NUMBER 53? >> YEAH.

>> CONTRACT. >> DID CAN I E-MAIL ABOUT THAT?

>> YES. >> YES.

>> WELL, NOT THIS. WHAT YOU E-MAILED US IS IN THAT PORTION OF IT. THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT IN

WHAT YOU E-MAILED US. >> BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIFICALLY RULES TO DISCUSS IS IN THE CONTRACT.

AND. >> I HAVE TO ADVISE THE COURT IN WRITING IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM TO DISCUSS IT OPENLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I DID THAT. >> IT IS ON THE CONTRACT YOU

ADDED. >> IT IS ONE OF THE TWO.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY, JPS.

[17. Discuss and take action on requests from Department Heads and Elected Officials on Midland County Proposed Budget. (Part 3 of 5)]

WE'RE BACK ON THE BUDGET. BACK ON THE BUDGET ISSUES I AM HERE TO, WHEN I DID MY BUDGET I ASKED FOR TWO POSITIONS.

ONE FOR A COURTHOUSE SECURITY. ONE FOR A PATROL DEPUTY.

THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY WAS GRANTED.

THE PATROL DEPUTY WAS NOT. I AM HERE TO REQUEST THAT

POSITION. >> OKAY.

LET'S SEE. THAT PATROL DEPUTY POSITION WAS

GRADE 21, STEP, STEP. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD APPROVED

IT. >> YOU DID.

>> IT WAS REMOVED. >> OKAY.

>> HONESTLY, I'M NOT GOING TO GET YOU TO WAIT, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FOUND THE MONEY ON THAT ONE EITHER.

>> I HAVE NOT FOUND THE MONEY ON THAT ONE YET, EITHER.

>> WELL F WE'VE ALREADY APPROVE IT ONCE.

>> YEAH,. >> IT IS APPROVED THE COURTHOUSE

SECURITY DEPUTY. >> YES, THAT, WAS ONE APPROVED BUT I PUT IN FOR A PATROL DEPUTY AND THAT ONE WAS TAKEN OFF.

>> SO PATROL DEPUTY, THAT ONE WAS NOT BUDGET APPROVED THE ONLY THING WE GOT APPROVED WAS THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

>> RIGHT. >> SO 21.7.

THEN IT IS A VEHICLE, AS WELL. >> YES, THERE'S ONE VEHICLE GOT APPROVED AND THE OTHER ONE DID NOT.

>> YES. SO IT BASICALLY EVERYTHING WAS CUT IN HALF. FOR THAT PATROL DEPUTY THAT I REQUESTED, THE VEHICLE, A RIFLE, A LAPTOP, A BODY CAM, DASH CAM, RADIO WITH THE CAR AND BALLISTIC VEST AND CELLPHONE, AND BOTH OF

THOSE WERE CUT IN HALF. >> DO YOU HAVE THE DOLLAR VALUE

ON ALL OF THOSE? >> I DO NOT.

I MAY PUT MONEY IN THE LINE ITEMS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT I PUT $4,000. IT WAS ONLY $2,000 WAS GRANTED FOR THE UNIFORMS I PLACED 5344, I'M SORRY THE WEAPONS I PLACED 5344, AND THE WEAPONS WAS GRANTED AND CUT THEM IN HALF.

UNIFORMS I PLACED $3000. >> $2000 WAS GRANTED.

VEHICLE FUEL I ASKED FOR $5000, $4000 WAS GRANTED.

EDUCATION TRAINING, I ASKED FOR $3000.

NOTHING WAS GRANTED. TRAVEL I ASKED FOR $3000.

>> $1000 WAS GRANTED. AND THEN FOR, OFFICE SUPPLIES I

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>> I THINK WE PUT THAT AT THE TOP OF OUR WANT LIST.

I THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

I THINK WE CLEARED OUT EARLIER. BUT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. WE AND MAKE A DECISION LATER.

>> I AGREE. SO, I'M TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE NUMBERS HERE. EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

>> OKAY THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING WAS MOVED TO A FUN.

IT IS NOT. >> IT IS STILL TECHNICALLY THERE. AND THEN, FOR YOUR TRUCK--

FIFTY-FIVE,981. >> THE UPDATING I THINK IT WAS AT 22. ONE WAS GRANTED AND THE OTHER

ONE WAS CUT. >> I SEE IF TOTAL IT LOOKS LIKE $100,0008-- 100,861.

>> WE HAVEISTY. >> $99.106.

$99,106. >> IS THAT FOR TWO VEHICLES?

>> NO, THAT'S ONLY FOR ONE. >> I HAVE IT ON MY NOTES. IF WE CAN FIND SOME MONEY, WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

>> OKAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WHAT'S THE SALARY ON 21.7? >> $79,000 I THINK IT IS THE

SAME AS THE SECURITY GUY. >> $79,055.

I GOT MY NUMBERS. WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

>> OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YOUR TURN. LET'S GO.

QUICK, QUICK. >> WE'RE READY TO GO EAT.

>> IS YOURS THE SAME? >> MINE IS APPROVAL THE SAME.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION.

IN THE PAST I'VE BEEN GRANTED $1500 FOR THE LAST, COUPLE OF YEARS. I REQUESTED $1500 AND IT WAS CUT TO $1000. I WOULD REQUEST THAT IT BE

BROUGHT BACK UP TO $1500. >> WE JACKED YOU UP TO $6050 IN

LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> I DID REQUEST THE COURTHOUSE AND THE REGULAR DEPUTY. AND THE, WHAT I SUBMITTED MY BUDGET THERE WAS A QUOTE FOR TWO NEW VESTS.

THOSE VESTS WERE KEPT INTO THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES.

>> SO I WANT TO PICK ON THIS. YOU WANT THE DEPUTY YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A VEHICLE AND I FORGET THE OTHER AMOUNT.

THE WEAPON. IS YOUR VEHICLE ALSO $99106.

>> IT IS DOLLAR 99, 437. I'M SORRY.

I'M READING THE MILEAGE OF THE EXISTING VEHICLE.

>> HIS IS $102000. CONSTABLE ONE IS $100,868.

>> I WOULD RATHER TRY TO FIND THE MONEY FOR THE DEPUTIES.

THEN IF WE CAN FIND CONTRAFOR AMMUNITION DO THAT.

LET'S GO AFTER THE VEHICLES AND THE DEPUTY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN

FIND AFTER THAT. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> OKAY. PERFECT.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE ON THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

I REQUESTED $2000 FOR THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING AND WAS GRANTED ZERO. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ANOTHER FUND THAT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT FUND.

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>> HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR LEO'S FUND?

>> $8,000 ROUGHLY. >> WHAT WILL IT NOT COVER?

>> IT WON'T COVER THE HOTEL OR SOME OF THE HOTELS IS WHAT I WAS

THINKING. >> IT WILL.

>> IF IT WILL, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> OKAY. >> $12,000 IN THE LEOS.

>> NEXT. >> PERFECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

JERRY COOK OF PRECINCT 3. THERE'S A FEW ITEMS. ONE I HAVE FIGURED OUT. I WAS READING IT WRONG.

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES ASKING FOR $2800.

IT WAS CHANGED TO $2100. I WAS TOLD I ATHLETE TO PUT GOATS AND HAVE QUOTES ON SOME OF THE ITEMS.

THE QUOTES ON SOME OF THE ITEMS. >> JUST TELL US ABOUT IT.

>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT FOR LATER.

>> ACTUALLY. >> YES, SIR.

>> LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.

ON THE QUOTE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES I NEED SOME MORE TOURNEQUETS. THE ONES WE HAVE ARE VERY LONG AND CATCHING AND TEARING AT THE UNIFORMS WITH THE VELCRO.

THEN AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO GET TWO FLASHLIGHTS FOR THE RIFLES. CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE HANDCUFFS THAT ARE PERSONAL ONES. WANT TO GET SOME FOR THE OFFICE.

A COUPLE OF EXTRA MAGAZINES FOR THE PISTOLS THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT FOR THAT. THIS IS FOR EVERYTHING IN THERE.

>> THANK YOU. I AM ASKING TO BRING THE AMOUNT OF $1500 FOR THE WEAPONS AND AMMO.

>> THAT ON THE SHEET AS WELL? >> IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER ALREADY. WHICH $1500 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING SINCE I'VE BEEN CONSTABLE.

AND THE LAST GO AROUND. OFFICE SUPPLIES I ASKED FOR $1500. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GIVE NOW. BUT JUST I THINK IT WAS $500 FOR COURT RIDGES FOR MY PARTNER IS $500 FOR ALL OF THE COLORS IT IS $500. I NEED MORE THAN THAT JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE YEAR.

RIGHT NOW MY MACHINE TO TELL ME I NEED INK.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT, AT THIS TIME.

STRAIGHT OFF THE BAT I WILL BE SPENDING THAT AMOUNT A.

MEMBERSHIPS AND DUES I WAS ONLY GIVEN $150.

I'M PART OF THE WEST TEXAS JPCA, AND THE JPCA AND TRYING TO GET IN T TMPA FOR ME AND MY DEPUTIES IT IS $1550.

THAT HELPS US WITH SCHOOLS, AS WELL.

I WAS GIVEN FOG FOR MY EDUCATION BUDGET.

IT HELPS WITH SCHOOLS. >> IT GOT MOVED TO A FUND TO LEO'S FUND FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

YOU HAVE $3000 IN THAT FUND. >> SO I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS ACTUALLY FROM THE STUDENT STATE. THAT'S NOT THROUGH THE COUNTY.

BUT THIS, LIKE I SAID FOR THE MEMBERSHIPS THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. BECAUSE THEY HOLD SEVERAL SCHOOLS IF YOU'RE NOT MEMBERS, THEN THE PRICE GOES UP.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO TO GET INTO THOSE MEMBERSHIPS BACK.

THE PRINTING I WAS ASKING $1500. I WAS GIVEN $1000.

THE QUOTE JUST FOR THE PRINTING FOR STARTING IN THE NEW BUILDING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS CHANGING THAT QUOTE WAS $1295.75. OF COURSE I WILL HAVE TO PRINT OFF MORE THAN THAT THAT'S JUST TO GET STARTED.

WITH THE DIFFERENT BOOKS AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ORDER AND USE ON A DAILY BASIS. THE CONTRACT SERVICE IT'S WAS GIVEN ZERO. I WAS ASKING $1500.

THAT'S TO HELP US TOWING AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW Y'ALL CAN GIVE ME ZERO AND WHENEVER SOMETHING IS TOWED I'LL COME IN AND HERE AND TELL THEM I NEED MONEY.

>> HOW MUCH LEO AS MONEY DO YOU HAVE?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT ON HAND. >> I BETTE WE DO.

>> THE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE I WAS GIVEN.

>> $3,775. THE EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE I WAS JUST ASKING TO GET $500 FOR THAT

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AND THAT HAS BEEN $1000 LAST YEAR AND THE $1000 THE YEAR BEFORE, AS WELL. THEN ON TELEPHONE I WAS ASKING FOR THE $2500. THAT'S THREE PHONE LINES AND TWO LINES FOR LAPTOPS. AND THEN I WAS ASKING FOR THE RADIO ANOTHER RADIO, WHICH I'VE GOT ONE.

MINE IS OLD, BUT I CAN STICK WITH THAT TOO, IF THAT IS

NECESSARY, AS WELL. >> OKAY.

>> TRY TO GET IT. >> I HEAR YOU.

>> IT IS ALL RIGHT THERE. .

>> THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL RADIO. >> YES.

>> I THINK THAT'S GOOD. IT IS WELL NOTED.

>> NEXT. >> ALL RIGHT, JAMIE CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT 4. I AM ASKING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES IT WAS CUT FROM $5390 TO $2640.

DUE TO HOSPITAL 33 I AM REQUIRE TO HAVE A SHIELD.

2640 WILL NOT COVER THE COST OF BALLISTIC SHIELD.

IT IS $34,000 I AM ASKING IT IS PUT BACK TO THE $53,90.

WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION I REQUESTED $54 10. IT WAS CUT TO $1500 I HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE IT DOES NOT COVER ENOUGH AMMUNITION OR WEAPONS FOR THOSE POSITIONS.

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT THE AMOUNT TO BE?

>> WHAT I REQUESTED $54,010. HOLLOW POINTS AND FULL METAL JACKET FOR TRAINING. EQUIPMENT AND FURNISHINGS, AS WELL AS FOR HOSPITAL 33 I'M REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE FOR MY DEPARTMENT IT. WAS TAKEN OUT ENTIRELY.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE $26,040. >> WHICH ITEM.

>> 5350. -5315.

>> UNIFORMS I ASKED FOR $2088 IT CAUGHT TO DRAGOON 1152 IT IS MYSELF AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE. THAT DOES NOT COVER THE COST OF PANTS AND SHIRTS AND FOR MYSELF AND ANOTHER TWO.

>> QUICKLY, THE AMOUNT THERE FOR THE DECK TOP WAS MONEYED OVER TO IT. AND THEN THE 350 WAS MOVED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES SO YOU DID RECEIVE THAT?

>> I WAS PURCHASING AND TOLD IT NEEDED TO GO INTO EQUIPMENT AND FURNISHING AND I BUDGETED THE THEM.

>> IT IS MOVED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES.

>> OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

>> OKAY. SOFTWARE WAS MOVED TO IT.

>> PRINTING. TRAVEL, I AM REQUESTING THAT MY TRAVEL BE PUT BACK. I REQUESTED-- I CAN'T FIND IT. SORRY.

I'M TRYING. >> I REQUESTED $1000 IT.

WAS TAKEN OUT ENTIRELY. >> I REQUESTED THE $1000 IF THERE'S A REASON AND NO FLEET VEHICLE AT THE BARN, I CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR MY PERSONAL VEHICLE FOR ME AND MY DEPUTY WILL ALWAYS HAVE A VEHICLE ON THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW NOW MUCH LEOS I HAVE IN EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

>> $700. >> I'M FIND WITH USING LEOS THAT'S ALL I'M REQUESTION OFFING TO BE ADJUSTED.

>> THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> DAVID. >> YOUR TURN.

>> THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR LONGEST ONE ALL DAY LONG.

>> YOU ALWAYS ARE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> I'M FINE EVERYTHING ON HERE. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T NEED TO ADD MORE MONEY IN --

WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER, PLEASE? >> THE UNDER GROUND SPRINKLER

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SYSTEM, LEAKS AND WATER WELL. >> I THINK THAT'S IN EDDIE'S BUDGET. RIGHT?

>> PART OF IT IS. WE PAID FOR THE UNDER GROUND.

>> I THOUGHT HE PAID. >> DAVID WHAT'S THE NUMBER,

POLICE? >> PAGE 10, 41.

>> IT IS 100.035215. 103.05.

>> LANDSCAPE SERVICES SO PAGE 76.

>> IT IS UNDER EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE.

>> OKAY EDDIE. >> $20,000 IN THAT.

WE'VE SPENT THAT MUCH THIS YEAR AND WE'RE STILL FIXINGIUN GROUND LEAKS. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY , IF I HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

IF YOU DON'T ADD MORE TO IT NOW. >> ON YOUR REQUEST OF 37,000

FROM $35,000 CORRECT? >> YES, I SAW ON EQUIPMENT YOU

ADDED 15,000 FOR BOLDERS. >> IT IS HOW WE'RE BLOCKING OFF THE ROADWAY, SO THEY DON'T RUN OVER THE SPRINK LER SYSTEM.

BECAUSE THE ARCHITECT THE COUNTY HIRED TO DO THIS PUT EVERY ONE OF THE PIPES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAYS.

>> WE'RE RIGHT ON TOP OF STUFF. >> IT HAS BEEN A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE SYSTEM THEY DIDN'T ASK ME ABOUT AT ALL.

>> SO, IF THEY WOULD HAVE ASKED ME, INSTEAD OF SENTING A DRONE.

THEY WOULD NOT PUT THE PIPES IN THE ROADWAYS.

>> WHAT THE IS MAINTENANCE OF THE CEMETERY WHAT ARE WE REPAIR

ONLY THAT BUILDING? >> ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE

RADAR. >> IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC

THAT IS $22,000 WE. >> WE MADE NEED THE ROOF.

THEY HAVE WATER LEAKS UP THERE. IT IS SPECIFICALLY NUMBER.

$21,640. I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOME

JUSTIFICATION TO THAT NUMBER? >> TODAY WE HAVE SPENT $20,098

IN THAT LINE. >> TO DATE?

>> $20,198. >> OKAY.

>> I THINK IF YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR $8000, $10,000 THERE WILL BE SOME MONEY IN CONTINGENCY.

>> I WOULD JUST COME BACK ASK ASK FOR IT.

>> OKAY. WILL DO.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU

>> JUSTIN. >> WAS YOUR NUMBER, JUSTIN?

100-56. >> PAGE 136.

NO, THAT'S NOT IT. >> 677.

IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ON THIS ONE.

>> THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF CHANGES I NEED TO MAKE AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE SALARY. UNDER 52.85 LAW ENFORCEMENT

SUPPLIES. >> IT WAS DROPPED TO UNDER $15,000. I'M ASKING FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER $5000 PUT BACK IN THERE. LIKE JAMIE SAID WE HAVE TO BUY THE BALLISTIC SHIELD WITH THE NEW LAW.

WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE ONE. IT IS REQUIRED BY THE 211 LAW.

>> ON EQUIPMENT AND FUNNISHING, YOU HAVE $3000ID CARD PRINTER?

>> WHAT IS THAT FOR? >> SO, WITH THAT, INSTEAD OF, ESPECIALLY LIKE AT OUR EOC AND STUFF WE HAVE STUFF WHERE

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>> IT IS CLOSE TO THE BALLISTIC SHIELD.

CAN WE MOVE ONE TO THE OTHER? >> I THINK IT WAS TAKEN OUT.

>> THE ID CARD PRINCIPALLER. >> IT WAS TAKEN OUT.

>> OF SORRY. LET'S SEE.

>> THAT FUND WAS REDUCED BY $10,000 OR $15000.

>> AM I MISSING IT? >> REPLACE BALLISTIC VESTS, NO.

>> CHEST SEALS. >> MAGAZINES, RAPID ASSAULT TOOL, REDUCE REPLACE BALLISTIC VESTS.

REPLACE LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES.

SLING PBA BATTLING. AND SLING PACKING.

AM I MISSING IT. >> I DON'T SEE IT ON MY.

>> THAT IS NOT IN THERE. >> OKAY.

IT IS A NEW ITEM. THE JUDGE REDUCED IT BY THE LINE ITEM BY $10,580. TO REDUCE IT WE'RE ASKING FOR

$5000 TO BE PUT BACK IN. >> HE DIDN'T REMOVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC. JUST REDUCED IT.

>> DO YOU HAVE A QUOTE OF WHAT THAT BALLISTIC SHIELD COSTS?

>> WE DON'T. SPEAK THEY HAVE TO HAVE ONE IN EACH SCHOOL IT. WAS JUST UNDER $5000.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADD $5000 TO 100.56000 SPOKEN 5285.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> THE MOTION PASSES.

>> I'VE GOT A MOTION ALSO. I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THE PREPAREDNESS MIT SPECIALIST FROM THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BUDGET.

>> WHERE IS THAT? >> SALARY?

>> 56532. IS IT EMPLOYEES SALARY?

>> WHERE IS THAT? >> IT IS SALARIES.

SO 5005? >> 5005.

>> IT IS BUDGET ONLY DEPARTMENT REQUEST.

I GUESS IT IS THE SAME POSITION. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST.

56001? >> YES, IT IS THE ONE NEW POSITION WE ASKED FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

CURRENTLY IT IS JUST MYSELF AND JAMIE THAT DO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE LAST ACTIVE SHOOTER.

MY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ITEM AT THE HOSPITAL TO HELP WITH REUNIFICATION, WE COULDN'T MANAGE THAT THIS PERSON IS GOING TO THE MITIGATION AND PREPAREDNESS.

HELP US WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS AND MITIGATION PLANS. LOOK FOR GRANTS.

HELP IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. COMPANIES COME TO US WITH THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS AND GO TO DRILLS AND MEETINGS AND

HANDLE A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES. >> WHAT'S THEIR SALARY?

>> $56,750. >> DON'T YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DOES THAT? DOES JAMIE DO THAT?

>> JAMIE DOES EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT I WANTED TO TAKE SOME OF THE WORKLOAD OFF OF HER.

IT IS JUST MYSELF AND I PRETTY MUCH DO IT PART-TIME.

JAMIE IS FULL-TIME EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

I WANT TO GIVE HER ADDITIONAL HELP.

>> I JUST THINK THAT'S MONEY WE CAN USE SOME OTHER PLACE.

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>> SO, IS IT IN THE BUDGET DECIDE YOU'RE TRYING TO REMOVE

IT? >> YES, THE JUDGE LEFT IT IN

THERE. >> AND CHARLES IS TRYING TO

REMOVE IT. >> DOES THAT COME WITH THE CAR

OR ANY? >> OR CELLPHONE OR ANY OF THAT

STUFF. >> MAYBE A CELLPHONE, BUT NOT A CAR. THERE'S NO VEHICLE FOR IT.

>> ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? >> IT DOES COME WITH A COMPUTER.

>> DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? >> DIDN'T EVEN HEAR THE MOTION,

I'M SORRY. >> WHAT WAS IT AGAIN?

>> I MAKE A MOTION WE REMOVE PREPAREDNESS MIT SPECIALIST FROM

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> INCLUDING ANY COMPUTER

EQUIPMENT? >> INCLUDING REMOVING COMPUTER

EQUIPMENT FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEE? >> YES,.

>> COULD YOU STATE THAT IN YOUR MOTION, PLEASE.

>> COULD YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION?

. >> AND A COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE A

SECOND? >> OKAY.

>> LET'S MOVE ON. >> SO THE NEXT ITEM IN 71. 10 CAPITAL OUT LAY WE HAVE $13,000 FOR A MAP PRINTER.

>> WE WANT TO REMOVE THAT. INSTEAD OF PURCHASE ONE OUTRIGHT, WE WANT TO LEASE T LIKE WE DO OUR NORMAL PRINTERS.

WE WOULD MOVE NOT MOVE, BUT PUT $5,400 INTO 6592 LONG-TERM

LEASES. >> WHAT KIND OF PRINTERS?

>> ONE OF THE BIG PRINTERS TO PRINTOUT MAPS ANOTHER ISSUE WE HAD WITH THESE INCIDENTS. FOR THE ACTIVE SHOOTER DPS TEXAS RANGERS ASKED FOR MAPS OF CERTAIN AREAS.

SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY AND REQUEST THOSE.

IT TOOK US AT THE HOURS TO GET SOME.

>> DOESN'T IT HAVE ONE OF THOSE. >> I THINK IT HAS A PRINTER I THINK WHAT TAKES TIME IS CREATING THE ACTUALLY MAPS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN INTERNAL GIS TO MODIFY THAT.

BUT IT DOES HAVE A PRINTER AND THE CITY HAS A PRINCIPALLER BUT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN CREATE MAPS AS THE CITY RIGHT NOW, AS

IT SITS. >> COULD WE WORK THROUGH THIS FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPEDITE CREATING MAPS AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A SYSTEM WITH IT AND THE CITY, WHERE THEY CAN BE PRINT THEM QUICKER.

>> WE'RE HIRING A GIS GUY. >> BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE MAPS YET. HIS THING IS MOSTLY JUST WORKING ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT FEW AND INPUTTING THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AND ONE PERSON CANNOT DO THAT STUFF. THE CITY HAS SIX GISS?

>> MORE THAN SIX. AND IT TAKES, IT TALKS A BIG DEPARTMENT OF GIS TO CREATE SOME OF THESE MAPS.

>> IT IS JUST THE ISSUE WHEN WE NEED THE MAPS IN A PINCH.

THE PROCESS TO GET THESE HAS BEEN.

>> THE CITY THEY ALWAYS HAVE A LOT.

USUALLY GIVE THEM LEAD TIME IN THIS CASE, THERE'S 25 RANGERS WE NEED SOME MAPS OUT. WE COULDN'T GET MAPS OUT. THE FIX WE CAME UP WITH WE CAN TAKE THAT FILE, TURN IT INTO A PD F AND PRINT THAT OUT LIKE GIS FROM THE SYSTEM.

>> LET ME, LET ME WORK ON THIS. AND I'LL PUT IT ON MY LIST OF MAYBES, IF WE CAN FIND MONEY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND ANOTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU. IF WE CAN'T.

SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY. >> HE'S REMOVING $13,000.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS ALWAYS REMOVED.

>> YOU DIDN'T DO A MOTION ON THAT.

>> IT IS ALREADY IN THERE. >> IT IS IN THERE.

THE JUDGE APPROVED THAT. WE'RE WANTING TO GET RID OF THAT

AND LEASE. >> WELL YEAH, I'M REDUCE IT.

SO, IT IS $10000, YOU'RE REDUCING IT TO.

>> IT IS DARRENRIESY $ 13000. >> IT IS $13,000.

AND REDUCE IT TO ZERO. IF WE LEASE ONE WE HAVE ONE FOR

$5000. >> I'LL PUT THE $5000.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. IF YOU END UP WORKING OUT YOU

HAVE IT. >> $5400 INTO LONG-TERM LEASES.

>> WE'RE REMOVING $13,000 FROM CAPITAL OUTLIES.

AND WE'RE ADDING $5000 TO LONG-TERM.

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>> $5400. TO LONG-TERM LEASES AND

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. >> SECOND.

>> THAT WAS YOUR MOTION? >> YEAH.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> MOTION PASSES.

>> THE LAST THING IS THE SALARIES.

I'LL GIVE YOU THIS UPDATED SHEET.

THE TOP OF THAT IS THE CURRENT PEOPLE THE CURRENT SALARIES

BELOW THAT. >> SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT.

WHEN ENVIRONMENT MOVED TO OUR OFFICE THEY CAME WITH THEIR PAY

SCALE. >> INVESTIGATORS AT 22 I HAVE SOME AT A 24678 MYSELF I'M AT A 24.

MY GUYS HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 44 YEARS EXPERIENCE DOWN TO I THINK 8. I HAVE A RETIRED TROOPER THAT HAD 28 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND CAME OVER ASK SHE'S MAKING $6 5,000 A YEAR WHAT I PROPOSED BECAUSE BEFORE IN THE PAST WE WERE ABOVE WHAT A CID INVESTIGATORS MADE WITH MY INVESTIGATORS. I HATE TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES, OUR OFFICE ARE INVESTIGATORS.

WE'RE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED INVESTIGATORS.

ARSON, CRIMES ARE SOME OF THE HARDEST TIMES TO INVESTIGATE AND TO PROVE. BECAUSE FIRE DESTROYS EVERYTHING. WE DON'T HAVE BLOOD EVIDENCE TO USE. WE CAN'T LIFT FINGERPRINTS FROM A FIRE. THERE'S A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC STUFF WE HAVE TO DO ANALYSIS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I DID ACCIDENT RECONSTRUCTION. WE DID TRADE AND CALSUS.

THIS FIRE STUFF IS A LOT MORE ADVANCED IN THE SCIENCE FIELD, THAN ANY INVESTIGATION I'VE EVER DONE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ARMY OF PEOPLE IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

MY GUYS GO FROM FROM THE 9-1-1 CALLS COME OUT. THEY'RE ON SCENE TO BE AT THE FIRE. THEY HAVE TO SIST THROUGH IT.

WE DON'T HAVE PROPER EVIDENCE PEOPLE.

MY GUYS HAVE TO DO IT. AND PROCESS THE SCENE.

THEY HAVE TO DIG THROUGH THE SCENES TO FIND THE BODIES.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OTHER AGENCIES DO.

I'M JUST ASKING THAT, THIS IS WHAT I PROPOSE WOULD STILL PUT THEM PROPOSED WHAT CID WOULD START OUT AT $38,000 ON THE SHERIFF IS-- $83,000 BUT CUSP THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE AND GET EULOF MY INVESTIGATORS ON THE LEFT OF THE 26 WITH THE ONE

SUPERINTENDENT ADVISOR AT $27. >> JUSTIN WHAT NUMBER IS THIS?

IS THIS, DID IT GET APPROVED? >> NO, IT WAS REMOVED.

>> IT WAS ALL REMOVED. >> THEY DON'T JUST DO THE HAVAL STUFF. THEY DIG THROUGH TRASH.

JUST LACK WEEK ONE GOT IN A FIGHT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL TRYING

TO PULL A GUN ON HIM. >> I'VE BEEN OUT ON SCENES WITH GUYS THAT HAD TO FIGHT PEOPLE. WE'VE ALL BEEN ON PATROL I DON'T HIRE ANYONE WITH LESS THAN FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE.

WE'VE ALL BEEN ON PATROL I DID SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS ON DAY SHIFT, NIGHT SHIFT, EVENINGS. PATROL IS ENTRY LEVEL POSITION IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THESE GUYS THAT COME TO ME ARE COPS. THEY'VE BEEN COPS.

I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TEACH THEM TO BE COPS.

I TEACH THEM HOW TO INVESTIGATE FIRES.

THEY'RE NOT ENTRY LEVEL INVESTIGATORS.

>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I AGREE WITH YOU.

NOW THE DIFFERENCE IS WE NEED TO FIND THE MONEY.

IF WE CAN FIND IT, I THINK TOWARDS THE END OF OUR MEETING WE CAN MAYBE START MAKING SOME MOTIONS TO INCREASE THINGS HERE

AND THERE. >> THE ONE THING THAT WE SHOULD DO RIGHT NOW IS THAT INVESTIGATORS AT $6 5,000 AI

APPROVE THAT RAISE. >> HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING

ABOUT? >> IT IS LIKE $14,000.

>> WE HAVEN'T REDUCED THE BUDGET BY $14,000 WE'RE CLOSE.

ALMOST. >> I UNDERSTAND.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS COMPARABLE WITH WHAT THE SHERIFF OFFENSE GOT. IT TAKES EVERYBODY TO DO THIS.

WE ALL DO DIFFERENT JOBS. SOME PEOPLES JOBS ARE A LITTLE MORE DANGEROUS. I'M NO MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE OUT HERE. SO WHATEVER, I'M IF WE NEED TO BRING IT DOWN AND COME BACK LATER, I WILL TELL YOU IN YEARS PAST I'VE BROUGHT IT UP. I WAS ALWAYS TOLD WE'RE WORK ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND YOU DEPARTMENTS WHO WILL BE DON'T LOSE PEOPLE. I'VE HAD PEOPLE DAY PAY CUTS TO COME AND WORK FOR ME. WE TALK ABOUT RAISES AND THOSE

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>> I WOULD GLADLY WORK ON IT JUSTIN.

I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME CUTS LATER ON.

SO JUST, WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT, ONCE WE FIND THOSE CUTS TO START ADDING STUFF.

>> YEAH. NO PROBLEM.

>> I'M ALWAYS A FAN OF YOU GUYS. YOU DO HAVE A HECK OF A JOB.

>> YES, Y'ALL DO. >> I THINK YOU NEED TO GET PAID WELL FOR IT, WE'LL DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT.

>> IF I MAY CLARIFY ON JAMIE. SHE DID GET AN INCREASE TO A 19.6. $68,991.

>> YES, BECAUSE THAT NEW POSITION WAS PUT UNDER HERE SO THE JUDGE BUMPED HER UP TO SUPERVISOR.

>> WE'LL WORK ON IT. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO. >> SO IT IS.

>> GO AHEAD. >> JUST, IT IS 102.

IT IS THIS COURT IS IN START WI. >> OKAY.

IT IS 2:16. THIS IS COURT IS BACK IN SESSION. AND WE'RE ON THE AIR.

>> LET'S GET THE SHERIFF. >> SHERIFF, OKAY.

SHERIFF, COMMISSION WOULD LIKE YOU TO COME BACK UP.

>> I TRIED TO WAIT ON YOU, NO ONE WOULD LET ME.

THEY WERE READY TO GO. >> WE ALREADY MOVED HALF OF THE

BUDGET. >> NO I DIDN'T TRY TO WAIT ON YOU. ABSOLUTE DEFINITELY.

>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR SB22 BUDGET THIS YEAR?

>> WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT. >> OKAY.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT SB22 BE INCLUDED IN THE SALARIES.

ADMIN SUPPLEMENTSES . >> CURRENTLY SB22 WAS REMOVED FROM THE GENERAL FUND SOME THAT GIVES THE SHERIFF AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO DISPERSE, AS HE WISHES.

WHERE AS THE GRANT ALLOWS HIM TO.

>> I THOUGHT THE JUDGE APPLIES FOR THAT.

>> HE APPLIES FOR THE GRANT FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT THE MONEY IS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND CURRENTLY THOSE FUNDS ARE INCLUDED WITH THE SALARY OF THOSE POSITIONS THOSE SHERIFF OFFICE POSITIONS. BUT I THINK IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THE JUDGE TOOK IT OUT. AND HAD GENERAL FUND PAY FOR ALL

OF THAT. >> SO, HOW DO WE MOVE BACK TO

HOW IT IS? >> THAT MOTION.

>> THE MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSION DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

>> YES, YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT TO.

>> I KNOW WHERE COMMISSIONER HALL IS GETTING FROM I TALKED TO THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND HIS COUNCIL THIS WEEK.

AND THE IN BE TENT OF THE SB22 MONEY WAS TO ASSIST SHERIFF OFFICES TO RAISE THEIR PAY WITH LOCAL ENTITIES THAT WAS THE INTENT. YOU ALL BLESSED US WITH THAT LAST YEAR BY CREATING THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUDGET, REMEMBER THAT? AND THAT WAS GOOD. BUT NOW THE COUNTY, OTHER COUNTY ENTITIES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THEIR SALARIES HAVE BEEN RAISED SO THE INTENT AND THE REASONING FOR THE MONEY HAS KIND OF JUST, THE COUNTY GAVE IT YOU GUYS, BUT WE WILL GIVE TO OUR GUYS.

THERE'S NO IN SENSITIVE TO GO TO THE SHERIFF OFFICE BECAUSE THEY

CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY. >> WELL THE THING IS SHERIFF, OUR SALARY IS HIGHER THAN THEM. IT IS NOT THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE REDUCING THE SALARY BY THE SB22 MONEY.

WE INCREASE YOUR MONEY WITH THE SB22 MONEY, AND WE INCREASED IT MORE WITH THE COUNTY. AND WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT MORE THIS YEAR WITH THE PERCENTAGES.

IT IS NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STEAL PAUL TO PAY PETER. WE'RE INCLUDING IT IN THE EQUATION OF MONEY. IT IS THE TOTAL DOLLAR THAT WE ALREADY KIND OF WORK ON THE BUDGET, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY. >> I UNDERSTAND-- WE CAN ARGUE THAT OR VOICE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE, OUR GUYS AND GALS ARE PENIALIZED, BECAUSE THE IN TENT OF THAT WAS TO LURE OFFICERS TO THE SHERIFF OFFICES. BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS MONEY TO DO THAT. FOR THE SALARY-- BEFORE I LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES WITHIN THIS COUNTY THAT RECEIVE SIMILAR FUNDS. THEY'RE AT WILL TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEE HOUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT.

I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME LIBETY TO COMPETENCE THE EMPLOYEES WITH

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TO EVERYBODY GETS A CERTAIN BUMP, BETWEEN THE YEARS OF SERVICE. GET THIS IN TWO YEARS, LESS THAN FINE, WHATEVER THE CALCULATIONS ARE OUT THERE.

I THINK IT IS MORE FAIR TO ALLOW US, AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS, LIKE WE SEE FIT, LIKE THE GOVERNOR INTENDED US TO SEE FIT. HOW DO YOU USE THESE FUNDS DO WAS YOU NEED TO DO THAT. AS INTENDED HAS BEEN LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. OFFICER A IS ONLY MAKING THIS MUCH. AND THIS IS MAKE ANYTHING MUCH.

WE NEED TO BRING IT UP TO THIS MUCH.

BUT WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF THE SB22 MONEY.

>> YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT THE IN TENT OF THE SB22 BILL IS TO INCREASE THE SALARY OF SHERIFFS.

>> CORRECT. >> WE'RE INCLUDING IT INTO OUR SALARY AND WE ADDED EVEN MORE TO THAT.

INCREASING THE SALARY OF OUR SHERIFF DEPARTMENT ALREADY.

SO IT IS NOT SAYING HEY, WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE NUMBERS TO DO THIS TO DO THAT. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST ONE, SOLID EQUATION TO SAY HEY, WE USE THIS MONEY TO INCREASE IT BY WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THE STATE HELPED US WITH.

AND WE AS THE COUNTY WENT ABOB ASK BEYOND TO PAY OUR DEPUTIES EVEN MORE. BUT IT IS ONE EQUATION, INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO SAY WE'RE DOING THIS WITH THIS.

AND THAT WITH THIS. AND GETTING CONFUSING.

WE JUST INCREASE THE SALARY. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE SBMONEY IS PART OF THAT EIFICATION ALREADY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU SHERIFF.

IT IS SOMETHING YOU JUST BROUGHT UP.

THE SHERIFF OFFICE EMPLOYEES WHY ARE THEY BETTER THAN THE REST OF

THE LIAM EMPLOYEES. >> YOU JUST TALKED DOWN.

>> I DIDN'T SIGH DIDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION THEY GAVE THE SHERIFF OFFICE BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW WE'RE TREATED BY COMMISSIONERS COURTS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS WE'RE UNDERPAID AND HERE'S $500,000 TO GET YOU TO HIRE PEOPLE AND KEEP THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M USING THAT

MONEY FOR. >> WELL,.

>> AND DON'T NEVER TALKED DOWN TO ANYBODY AND NEVER WILL TALK DOWN TO ANYBODY. IT IS A FORMAL HEARING.

>> IT IS WAS YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

>> I'M DISCUSSING THAT IS NOT FAIR.

IT IS VERY UNFAIR TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION.

>> NUMBER ONE, IF WE TAKE THAT SB22 MONEY AND GIVE IT TO YOU AS BONUSES IT IS GOING TO COST THE COUNTY MORE TAX DOLLARS.

>> HOW? >> TO MAKE UP THAT MONEY IN YOUR SALARY LINE-UP. IT IS A 50-50 CHECK.

MY DEAL IS I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THE SAME.

>> YOU MADE A MOTION ALREADY, COMMISSIONER HOLD.

>> YOU ARE STILL ON THAT SECOND. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH, I GUESS SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE MOTION WAS PLEASE?

>> MOTION TO BE USED FOR THE SALARIES.

>> I'M JUST NOT FOLLOWING IT. >> HE SECONDED IT.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IT IS.

IT IS FINE. THE SB22 MONEY IS IN THE SALARIES RIGHT NOW, IN THE BUDGET?

>> NO, IT IS CURRENTLY NOT IN THE SALARIES AND THE BUDGET.

>> SB22. >> IT IS IN THE,.

>> IT IS IN THE 26TH YEAR, BUT FOR 2027 PROPOSEED BUDGET THAT MONEY WAS TAKEN OUT. NOW THE SHERIFF HAS $500,000 TO DISPERSE

TO HIS OFFICE, AS HE SEES FIT. >> WITH THE SB22 MONEY.

MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT ME IN I'M WRONG.

THE SB22 MONEY THEY HAVE TAKEN IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THAT MONEY IS THERE, WE'RE NOT LOSING MONEY ON THE SALARIES. IT IS ALLOWING ME, IF I SO CHOOSE TO USE THAT SB22 MONEY WHERE THERE'S AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY TO THE SHERIFF OFFICE ASKSTY AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE UNTIL WHENEVER. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING IS THE COURT TO DEAL WITH THE SB22 MONEY.

>> THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE STATE GIVING THE MONEY.

>> TO BEGIN WITH, YES, SIR. >> THE IN BE TENT TO USE FOR

SALARIES. >> TO INCREASE THE BASE PAY OF

LAW ENFORCEMENT. >> SHE WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO FUND THOSE SALARIES NOW THAT SB22 COVERED IN '26.

>> AND '25. >> '25 AND '26.

WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN SALARIES TO FUND THOSE SALARIES.

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>> BUT IF THE, IF SB22 CONTINUES ON, YOU GET MORE MONEY.

>> NO. >> IT IS $500,000 EVERY

CONTRARY. >> I I'M SORRY.

>> WELL, BUT THAT $500,000 WAS USED FOR SALARIES.

THAT'S WHAT THE GRANT WAS FOR. >> IT WAS.

>> AND THAT IS WHAT THE CURRENT SALARY STRUCTURES IS INCLUDED IN THE THE CURRENT SALARY STRUCTURES OF.

>> OF 2026. >> COMMISSIONER HALL WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING FOR '27, '26, '27 KEEP THAT $500,000 IN THE SALARIES. NOT TO BE USED DISCRETIONARY FOR

BONUSES OR EXTRA STIPENS. >> IT IS NOT A BONUS.

IT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE SALARIES.

IT WILL BE PART OF THE SALARIES. THE LONGEVITY WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I THINK IT IS BETWEEN FIVE TO 10, 10 TO 12. IT IS PART OF THE SALARY LIKE THE LEG TOUR SAYS IT HAS TO BE. MY CONTENTION IS THAT, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY GET ALL YOU CAN GET AS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT IS HARD TO FIND PEACE OFFICERS.

THE STATE RECOGNIZES THAT. ESPECIALLY IN THE SHERIFF COUNTY AND RURAL COUNTIES. OVER THE YEARS, IF WE GOT THAT MONEY OTHER ENTITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY, THEIR SALARIES HAVE BEEN RAISED TO ALMOST MATCH WHAT OUR LEVEL IS.

SO THERE'S NO INCENTIVE WHY TO COME TO THE SHERIFF OFFICE OR DO

THIS OTHER JOB. >> THE WHO IS THE OTHER

AGENCIES. >> WELL YOU'VE GOT THE WARRANT SERVICES YOU HAVE FIRE MARSHAL AND CONSTABLES.

>> OUR FIRE MARSHALS ARE GETTING PAID $60000, $6 5,000.

>> YOU ASKED ME ANOTHER AGENCIES.

>> WHICH ARE GETTING SIMILAR OR CLOSE TO YOUR BASE PAY.

>> THE ONES I KNOW ARE, WARRANT SERVICES, CONSTABLE.

>> CONSTABLE ARE MAKING $79,000. >> NOT ANY MORE.

>> WELL, THE DEPUTY ARE GETTING $79,000 AND WE'RE MAKING $80,000 THERE'S NO IN INN NO IN BE SENSITIVE.

TAKE THIS AS YOU WILL. IF I'M MAKING $80,000 AS A DONE ASK WORKING MIDNIGHTS, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, MISSING FAMILY EVENTS AND CAN DO ANOTHER JOB WHERE ANOTHER AGENCY INSIDE THIS COUNTY AT $79,000 AND SOME CHANGE.

8:00 TO 5:00, BYE. IN FACT PEOPLE HAVE LEFT US, BECAUSE THE INCENTIVES RESIDENT THERE ANY MORE.

OUR EDGE IS GONE. THAT'S WAS I'M ASKING FOR.

ALLOW US, ALLOW ME TO DISTRIBUTE THAT LIKE I SEE FIT.

THIS TIME WE CAN INCLUDE ALL OF THE JAILORS TOO.

SO TO GET THAT BASE TO WHERE WE HAVE 10 PEOPLE IN THE JAIL WITH 10, 15, YEARS STICKING AROUND. IF THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO STICK

AROUND RIGHT NOW. >> YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO

HAPPEN. >> I WANT IT TO STAY IF THE SALARY. BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR HE GOT IT, HE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE CARE. THIS WAY EVERYONE IS TAKEN CARE OF. I'M CONFUSED SAYING EVERYONE IS

NOT TAKEN CARE OF. >> IF IT IS IN THE SALARY

EVERYONE GETS SOME OF IT. >> IT IS NOT DISTRIBUTED RIGHT NOW TO THE JAILORS, BUTTING THE JAILORS HAVE SEENED INCREASES.

>> IT IS SPREAD EVENLY ACROSS THE COUNTY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING SIR. >> I CALL THE QUESTION.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

WE GET TO VOTE. >> OKAY.

>> I HAVE TO THINK OF WHAT I WANT TO VOTE NOW.

BECAUSE THIS IS ENTIRELY CONFUSED ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

IT HAPPENS A LOT. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> AYE.

>> MAY I ASK THE QUESTION? >> THE MOTION PASSES.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> SO COMMISSIONER HALL YOU SAID IT IS GOING TO ALL EMPLOYEES. HOW DO I DO THAT?

>> IT WILL STAY IN THE BUDGET, JUST LIKE IT IS THIS YEAR.

>> BUT ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU RECOMMENDED.

>> IT IS NOT BY SB22 I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER COURTS THAT THE AUTHORITY OR ME HOW TO SPEND THE SB22 MONEY.

>> WE OVERRUN THIS DEP. >> DON'T TELL ME HOW TO SPEND

IT. >> WELL THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE

COUNTY ATTORNEY, COUNCIL. >> YOU CAN ASK, BUT SB22 WAS SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO THE SHERIFF.

HE CAN SPEND IT ON SALARIES OR EQUIPMENT.

AND FOR ME, I HAVE DIFFERENT LIMITATIONS ON IT

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>> THE ONE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE GRANT.

WHEN WE APPROVE THE GRANT WE SENT IT UP TO GO FOR SALARY WITH THE SHERIFF. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE USING THE MONEY WE'RE RECEIVING WITH THE THE GRANT THAT WE SENT TO PAY AND INCREASE THE BASE PAY.

>> YOU CAN APPROVE OR APPROVE THE GRANT BUT CAN'T APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THE SHERIFF SPEND THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO.

>> IN THE GRANT IT ASKS YOU WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR.

WE'RE USING IT FOR THAT. >> BUT THAT'S UP TO THE ELECTED

OFFICIAL TO DETERMINE THAT. >> IT IS UP TO US FOR BUDGET.

>> THAT'S NOT THE COMMISSION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

IF I HAD MY SB22 DESIGNATED THIS WAY, WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT I CAN CHANGE IT IF I WANT BECAUSE IT IS SB22 MONEY GIVEN TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. THIS IS NOT MY FIGHT.

I BE DON'T WANT THE COURT TO BE UNDER THE MISAPPREHENSION THEY CAN TELL ME HOW TO SPEND MY SB22.

>> WHENEVER THE COURT, THE SHERIFF DID DETERMINE WHO WAS GOING TO GET THE FUNDS. AND THE COURT SAID THE FUNDS GO AWAY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE SALARIES CAN DECREASE.

SO THAT WAS THEY SAID YEAH, IF THE MONEY GOES AWAY, THE SALARIES DECREASE. IN THIS CASE YOU'RE NOT DECREASING THE SALARY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT TAIS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. THE SB22 FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED THE WAY THEY WANT TO DISTRIBUTE TO HIS PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE DECISION THE COURT MADE.

THE COURT ASKED IF SB22 FUNDS GO AWAY, DO THE SALARIES OF THESE PEOPLE DECREASE. I THINK IT IS GREED UPON, IF IT NEEDED TO BE. THE WAY IT IS BUDGETED IS USING SB22 IN THE 202 YEAR IS USING SB22 FOUNDS AND THE SHERIFF GETTING THE SALARIES HE'S CURRENTLY GETTING.

>> THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THIS SCALE.

>> OKAY WE VOTED ON IT. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. I HAVE A FEW ITEMS I WANTED TO SEE TO GET OUT OF OUR BUDGET SOME ARE FOR THE I IT, AND SOME ARE PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING WITHIN THE COUNTY.

>> I WANT TO ADD EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE AND RADIOS.

BACK IN DECEMBER YOU APPROVED THE AMENDMENT WITH THE RADIO SYSTEM AGREEMENT WITH THE DESSA AND THE CITY OF MIDLAND FOR $10,000 FOR A MODULE RADIO SYSTEM SHARED BETWEEN THE FOUR AGENCIES. I'M NEEDING THE $10,000 TO MAKE

OUR PAYMENT NEXT DECEMBER. >> NEXT DECEMBER?

>> DECEMBER 2027? >> 2026.

>> 6220, EQUIPMENT, MAINTENANCE RADIOS.

>> THE COURT APPROVES THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOU IN DECEMBET

PURCHASE WITH THEM. >> EQUIPMENT, MAINTENANCE,

RADIOS. >> YES, SIR.

>> HOW MUCH DECLARATION 10,000. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE

LINE THEM 6022-0620 BY $10,000. >> SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

I BELIEVE THAT MOTION PASSED. >> THE SAME LINE 6220.

COMMISSION HALL ASKED IF WE COULD ADD A REGULAR LINE FOR ALL THROUGHOUT THE CATCH THESE ARE ROUGH NUMBERS. IF WE WANT TO JUST DO MAINTENANCE FOR ALL RADIOS NOT INCLUDING REPLACEMENTS OF ALL RADIOS IT WOULD BE AT $20,000 LOOKING AT AT LEAST HAVING ENOUGH FUNDS TO REPLACE TWO RADIOS IF WE NEED TO WAIT FOR INSURANCE IT WON'T REPLACE THE COST RADIO.

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MIGHT HAVE ESTIMATED. >> IT IS LIKE A COUPLE HERE AND THERE. LIKE I SAID THIS WAS ROUGH NUMBERS. THE ONLY REON FRIDAY OR MONDAY

FOR THIS. >> IF IT IS ONLY MAINTENANCE IT

IS HOW MUCH? >> WE'RE LOOKING AT $20,000 TO HAVE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE FOR EXAMPLE TWO RADIOS AT THE ENTRANCE WOULDN'T COVER OR TWO RADIOS THAT GOT LOST.

>> IS THERE I BLANKET MOTION TO REMOVE RADIO MAINTENANCE OFF OF

THE BUDGET AND ADD THIS TO IT? >> I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER BECAUSE YOU DEAL WITH PETRA.

>> IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO ALL COMPUTER AND FURNISHING.

>> THE ONLY THING WE LEAVE IN THE RADIO MAINTENANCE IS FOR BATTERIES OR SOMETHING VERY SMALL.

>> PUT EVERYTHING TO ONE PSYCHLE AND GROUP.

AND ALSO HELP WITH THE INSURANCE AS WELL, IF WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR RADIOS. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR ENTRANCE.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ALL RADIO MAINTENANCE FUNDS FROM THE REST OF THE BUDGET AND ADD $45,000 TO 100-06-006.220 FOR RADIO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. THE NEXT LINE.

>> WAIT, WAIT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

>> COMMISSIONER BALL. >> AYE.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING IT NOW.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OPPOSED.

>> MOTION PASSES. >> SORRY I WAS TRYING TO GET US

OUT OF HERE. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THE NEXT LINE I'LL BE GOING TO IS 55.20 THE SOFTWARE LINE.

I JUST NEED TO INCREASE THAT BY $19,250 IT IS DUE TO TWO OF THE SOFTWARE DUA AND LAST PASS. THE LAST QUOTES HAD AN INCREASE, SO THE $19,250 WILL JUST ADD THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO RENEW

THOSE NEXT YEARS. >> WHAT ARE THOSE USED FOR?

>> 5520 SOFTWARE. >> DUO IS OUR MULTIPLE STOPPAGES FACTOR AUTHORIZATION AND LAST PASS IS THE PASSWORD MANAGER.

DO PEOPLE NOT JUST USE NOTEBOOK? >> DOLLARS 19,250.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE 100.00.5520 SOFTWARE BY $19,250.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> MOTION PASSES. >> CAN YOU TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT

THAT WAS FOR TO LABEL IT. >> DUO AND LAST PASS.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT I'LL BE GOING TO OUR CAPT ONE. THERE WERE A FEW PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT ADDING THIS YEAR. SO, TWO OF THE LARGE WERE THE HOSTS SHOE AUDIO VISUAL FOR THE ARENA AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY.

AFTER THE BUDGET CAME BACK WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE SOME CUTS TO BRING THOSE PRICES DOWN AND SEE WHAT TOOK PLACE TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE SHORT, I WILL JUST GET ON TOPIC.

WE'RE ASKING TO INCREASE THE CAPITAL LINE BYCULAR 739,637 FOR THE ARENA AUDIO VISUAL UPGRADE. INCLUDES NEW SOUND STEM, WIRE ALSO MICROPHONE, DIGITAL SIGNAGE.

>> JUST TO HEAR YOU RIGHT YOU SAID $739,000?

>> YES, THAT'S IF THE COURT WANTS TO PURSUE THESE PROJECTS.

IT WILL A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY THE SOUND SYSTEM IS THERE FROM THE ORIGINAL LILLED OF THE ARENA.

WE WERE LOOK AT SOME OTHER ITEMS IF WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH UPGRADING THE ARENA WITH SIGNAGE AND AUDIO VISUAL.

>> THIS IS JUST FOR THE ARENA. >> LAST YEAR WE DID ONE FOR THE PAVILLION. WE ACTUALLY RAN NEW VIDEO WALLS.

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IF THE COURT WANTS TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT.

THE ORIGINAL QUOTE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.

IF WE WANT TO JUST DO THE BARE MINIMUM AND ADD SOME ADDITIONS

THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE. >> WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO

COME FROM? >> I'M NOT, I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE LOOK

AT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. >> WHAT WAS THE LIBRARY PROJECT?

>> THAT BETWEEN THE BOTH LIBRARIES CAME OUT TO $963,NOW.

I WILL SAY THAT THE DOWNTOWN LIBRARY OR THE CENTENNIAL LIBRARY HAS NOT HAD AUDIO VISUAL UPGRADE.

>> WHAT DO THEY USE AUDIO VISUAL?

>> FOR THE MEETINGS ROOM THROUGH THE LIBRARY THEY HAVE A PATHWAY FOR THE PROJECTORS AND ANY EXHIBITS.

A LOT OF EXHIBITS I KNOW ARE ASKING FOR MORE HAVE MORE AUDIO VISUAL EXPERIENCES. THE DOWNTOWN LIBRARY IT WOMANED BE ALL OF THE STUDY ROOMS, GAMING STATIONS, THE FOYER ENTRANCE, THE ACTIVITY ROOM AND ADDING SOME SCHEDULING FOR THE PUBLIC WHERE THEY COULD RESERVE THEIR OWN MEETINGS ROOMS. CENTENNIAL LIBRARY THE CONFERENCE ROOM, ACTIVITY ROOM, MEETING ROOM, AND REPLACE ALL-PRO JECTORS NOW.

AND WE HAD TWO OR THREE GO OUT RECENTLY AND THE PROJECTORS ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. ADDING SOME AUDIO, AND NEW AUDIO SYSTEM FOR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

AS WELL AS INTERACTIVE SCREENS SUCH AS GAMING STATIONS FOR KIDS. THERE'S TWO CURRENT ONES THERE, BUT THESE WOULD LET KIDS PLAY FRUIT NINJA OR DIFFERENT GAMES ON THOSE SCREENS. BOTH OF THEM FIRST CENTENNIAL HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 20 13678 WE REPLACED THE PROJECTORS ONCE.

THE LAST TIME WE REPLACED WAS IN 20 15 CURRENTLY THE ACTIVITY ROOM IS IN NEED OF NEW PROJECTOR WE HAVE A BAND-AID JUST A TV ON A CART. I FEEL THE CENTENNIAL LIBRARY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS AUDIO UPGRADE.

>> HOW MUCH IS CENTENNIAL? >> CENTENNIAL ALONE.

>> NINE00,000 THAT'S FOR BOTH. CENTENNIAL IS MORE EXPENSIVE.

>> SO JAY, ARE THE COMPUTERS AND UP RUNNING?

>> I HAVE AN ITEM ON THE COURT. THAT IS PART OF THE REGULAR AGENDA. THAT'S ABOUT PURCHASING THAT

SYSTEM. >> THAT PART THAT WE HASN'T

GOTTEN TO YET? >> YES, SIR.

>> YEAH. >> WE CAN DEAL WITH CENTENNIAL.

>> I HAVE THE QUOTE. CENTENNIAL COMES OUT TO A TOTAL

OF. >> IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE. >> IT IS, YOU SAY UNLESS YOU SAY

IT IS $50. >> IT IS $629,000 THAT'S THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONE BUT THE OLDER LIBRARY, WITH THE ORIGINAL

EQUIPMENT IN THERE. >> THANK YOU.

>> STEVEN WILL TRY TO FIND YOU SOME MONEY?

>> YEAH. >> I CAN'T FIND THAT KIND OF

MONEY. >> GOOD TRY THOUGH.

>> THIS WAS THAT'S ALL I CAN DO NOW.

>> THAT'S IT. ME TOO.

>> THE NEXT PROJECT IS BRINGING OVER THE TYLER CASE CIVIL MANAGEMENT FOR THE JP COURTS. THE TYLER CIVIL PROCESS FOR THE CONSTABLE AND MIGRATING THE TYLER CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT THE DC INTO THE TYLER CLASS SOLUTION.

WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER IN JULY OF 22 THAT THEY WILL NOW BE MOVING OVER THE CURRENT VENDOR WILL ONLY AND THE CLOUD SOLUTIONS AT A CERTAIN POINTS WE DON'T HAVE A SET DATE.

WE HAVE AN ON PREM SOLUTION. TYLER HAS OFFERED FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MIGRATION.

IF WE BRING THEO OTHER TWO PROJECTS ON-LINE THIS COMING

YEAR. >> OKAY, SO THESE ARE CURRENT

PRODUCTS WE HAVE? >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE TYLER CASE MANAGEMENT FOR THE COURTS. CURRENTLY THE JPS ARE ON A OUR OLD NET DATA SYSTEM. COMMISSIONER HALL REACHED OUT THEY HAVE A REGION AND SOME DEMOS.

>> ISN'T THIS GOING TO BE THE CONSTABLE TO DAY ONE.

>> THE CONSTABLE WILL STILL HAVE PREMIERE ONE.

WE HAVE THE ONE WITH THE SHERIFF OFFICE.

IT IS ANOTHER ITEM FOR LATER. >> WHAT THIS DOES, IT ALLOWS

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WHICH WILL CUT DOWN. >> DON'T WE ALREADY DO THAT?

>> YOU HAVE TWO CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. YOU HAVE THE TYLER PIECE. THEN YOU HAVE THE NET DATA

PIECE. >> ARE WE GETTING RID OF NET

DATA? >> IT IS DEPENDENT IF THE PROJECT GOES THROUGH. THE PROJECT WAS PUT IN THE

BUDGET IT IS REMOVED. >> HOW MUCH IS THE PROJECT.

>> IT IS 1. DID MILLION. >> NONE OF YOUR PROJECTS ARE

EVER CHEAP. >> THESE AREN'T IT PRODUCTS THEY ARE PROJECTS FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

IT DOESN'T LOG INTO IS THESE SYSTEMS. IF THE BENEFIT OF IT NOW IS OUR CURRENT VERSION OF TYLER, AFTER VERSION 26, I BELIEVE WILL NO LONGER GET ANY ENHANCEMENTS OR FEATURES. WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE INTO THE CLOUD AT SOME POINT, IF THERE ARE NEW REPORTS OR GET THE CUSTOM REPORTS BUILT. THIS IS KIND, IF WE DON'T DO IT.

IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN NOW WE'RE JUST KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY ANY YEAR.

>> SO. >> WE CAN WHICHEVER ROAD YOU WANT TO TAKE AT SOME POINT MIGRATE WITH TYLER OR LOOK FOR A NEW SOFTWARE SOLUTION FOR A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

IF WE DO THIS WHOLE PROJECT NOW F THOSE FUNDS ARE ADDED BACK TO US, WE COULD BRING ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS ON-LINE AND-- WE DO HAVE MONEY THROUGH CURRENT MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO ASSIST WITH THIS AS WELL. BUT WE WOULD NEED THE $1.4

MILLION ADDED BACK IN THREE. >> FOR THIS YEAR.

>> THAT WILL COVER ALL OF IT. >> WE NEED $1.4, AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO START WITH THAT.

>> THAT $1.4 WITH WHAT I HAVE NOW WOULD DO THE WHOLE PROJECT.

>> IT COULD BE BROKEN DOWN WITH QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY PAYMENTS THIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE MORE. IT IS 18-16 MONTHS WE COULD HAVE

ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR OF FUNDING. >> IF WE GET RID OF THE OTHER SOFTWARE IN THIS MEANTIME. HOW MUCH DO WE SAVE?

>> ABOUT $40,000. >> SORRY.

RIGHT NOW THE IT IS ONLY THE JP COURTS ON THAT SYSTEM.

>> AND CURRENTLY THE DISTRICT COURTS ARE ON TYLER?

>> YES, SIR. >> THIS ALLOWS, WHEN THE JP DO THEIR WARRANTS AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND FELONY CLASS IN THE COUNTY COURT. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS AUTOMATICALLY DOWNLOADED TO THEIR COMPUTER?

>> WE COULD THIS WITHOUT MIGRATING EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

BUT YOU WILL SPEND MORE MONEY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY A LICENSE FEE CLOSE TO $600XHOUSE IT IS NOT PART OF THE JUST

BUDGETED. >> IT IS A BIGGER PROJECT WE HAVE DONE IT RECENTLY WITH THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY CLERKS IT DID TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS SO IT IS A LARGE PROJECT.

>> IF I CAN BRING TO YOUR MIND THAT THE JPS ARE ALREADY SAYING THEY'RE OVERLOADED AND HAVING TOMMYING GET TO A NEW SYSTEM.

IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME WORK. >> CAN'T OVERWORK THEM.

THEY'RE BUSY RIGHT NOW. >> IT COULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN

THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR BUDGET. >> THEY DID TELL US WE COULD DO

STRUCTURES PAYMENTS. >> WHAT IS THE AMOUNT FOR THIS

YEAR? >> THE TOTAL IF WE WANTED TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT UP FRONT WE WOULD NEED $1,733000 TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT RIGHT NOW IT IS SHORT $1.4 MILLION.

>> HE HAS $300,000 IN HIS ACT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHORT RIGHT NOW IF WE WANT TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT.

>> YEAH. >> I DIDN'T THINK SO.

>> ALL RIGHT. THE LAST ONE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE IT DEPARTMENT. AND THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET I REQUESTED A TWO DEPARTMENT BEGINNINGS OCTOBER 12 WITH NO CURRENT ANNIVERSARY RAISES I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COURT GIVE THIS REQUEST CAREFUL CONSIDERATION.

I BELIEVE THE IT HAS DEMONSTRATED STRONG AS DIRECTOR OF THE IT DEPARTMENT I FEEL IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVOCATE FOR MY NEEDS WITH THE PROJECT.

OVER 1 YEARS I HAVE NEVER SEEN AS MANY PROJECTS.

SINCE ASSUMING THE ROLE IN DECEMBER 2022 IT IS SUPPORTING AT LEAST 30 PROJECTS. PROJECTS SUPPORTS TIVE NEW BUILDINGS, SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION SUCH AS COURTS OR

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REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADES TO SECURITY DEVICES TO BETTER PROTECT FAMILY OUTREACHES AND PERSONNEL.

PUBLIC SAFETY MULTIAGENCY RADIO SYSTEM AND PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM UPGRADED. AND FOR YOUR BEING PRESENTED FORE APPROVAL IN SUPPORTING LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS WEST TEXAS WE ANTICIPATE AN ADDITIONAL 30 PROJECTS ACROSS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THIS COMING YEAR. NATIONAL TEAMED TO MANAGING THESE PROJECTS OUR TOP PRIORITY IS PROVIDING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR FELLOW COUNTY EMPLOYEES MORE THAN 800 USER PROFILE AND 1000 DEVICES THE IT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES WHAT I I BELIEVE IS ABOVE AVERAGE SUPPORT WITH THE STAFF OF ONLY 13.

TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES AS THE COUNTY GROWS.

THE DEMAND FOR IT WILL INCREASE. THE IT DEPARTMENT WENT THROUGH AN AUDIT REQUESTED BY THE COURT PRESENTING ITEMS MOVING FROM A STRONG REACT TIVE SERVICE TO MANAGED IT WITH FORMAL GOVERNANCE, OVERSIGHT AND DISASTER RECOVERY DISCIPLINE.

SOLUTIONS WITH THE IT DEP HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR FISCAL BUDGET AND UTILIZING RESOURCES WE CURRENTLY VICTIM THE SECONDARY PIECE, INCLUDES SALARY REVIEWS THE AUDIT DID COME BACK FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENT WITH SKILL AND ASSIST WITH RETAINING CURRENT EMPLOYEES. THE DEMAND FOR IT HAS INCREASED OVER THE PAST YEARS, CREATING CHALLENGES RETAINING EMPLOYEES AND RECRUITING. AS WE GO IS INTO MAJOR PROJECTS OFTEN THE SALARY FREEZE WILL PROVIDE WITH THE STRONG IT TEAM TO MEET THE STANDARDS THE DEPARTMENT AND COUNTY HAVE SET FOR THE TEAM. I AM CONFIDENT THE MEMBER OF THE IT DEPARTMENT ARE PREPARED TO MEET THE CHALLENGES AND DELIVER THE LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPECTS AND DESERVES I ASK FOR THE COURT TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED SALARY INCREASE.

>> WHAT'S THE TOTAL DOLLAR ON SALARY INCREASE?

>> I DON'T HAVE IT OFF OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE A NUMBER PERSON.

IT WAS PROPOSED WITH MY DEPARTMENT BUDGET.

IT WASN'T PART OF THAT >> WELL WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD I HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE. HALF OF THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN OVER 12 YEARS. SOME 27 OR 28 YEARS.

SO, I FEEL LIKE RETAINING THE CORE GROUP WOULD HELP, AS WE GO INTO NEW PROJECTS SUCH AS JAIL, JP BUILDINGS AND NEW JUVENILE CENTER. THE LAST PART I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON. I DID ASK FOR TWO NEW EL EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

I'M ONLY ASKING IF MAYBE I COULD GET ONE DESKTOP TECHNICIAN ADDED TO THE CURRENT STAFF. I BELIEVE ADDING THE TECHNICIAN WOULD ALLOW TO BER SERVE WITH THE NEW BUILDINGS COME UP.

THE STEP WOULD BE A 22. 1. THE BURDEN DOLLARS 91,792.

. >> WHAT IS THE POSITION?

>> 22.1 A DESKTOP TECHNICIAN. >> YOU REQUESTED TWO.

>> I REQUESTION OFFED ANOTHER BUT I AM WILLING TO HOLD BACK

FOR THE DECK TOP TECHNICIAN. >> WHAT WAS THE NETWORK.

>> THEY START AT A $26.1. WE DO HAVE LARGER FAMILY OUTREACHES WE HAVE LONGER DRIVES SOMETIMES THEY ARE STUCK OUT LONGER. AS WE'RE DOING THE JP BUILDING WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SKELETON STAFF AND HALF OF THE DEPARTMENT AT TWO BUILDINGS AND I HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AT THE HELP DESK AND ONE TECHNICIAN. CURRENTLY WE'RE AT THE JP BUILDING AND THE SHERIFF OFFICE WITH THEIR DEPLOYMENT.

I THINK I HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE TO MANAGE EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR AT LEAST A DESKTOP TECHNICIAN, IF POSSIBLE.

>> AND THE INCREASE OF YOUR POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTION

OFFING IS $100,200? >> I HAVE ON MY NOTES.

>> WE GOOD? >> WELL I WANT TO RYE TO SEE IF WECANT FIND THE MONEY FOR THE DESKTOP TECHNICIAN FOR 21.1.

BUT THAT'S $92,000 WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH.

I WILL LOOK AT IT AND SEE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT, AFTER

THE NEXT BREAK. >> YEAH, SO WE WILL, WE CAN FIND

MONEY W LE FIND MONEY. >> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIND

MONEY FOR THAT ONE. >> THANK YOU.

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>> I THINK THAT'S IT, THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. >> CALL THE CONSTABLES BACK FOR

ONE, QUICK DEAL. >> YOU'RE WEARING ME.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? >> VERONICA?

WHAT DID I DO? >> THE CONSTABLES COME ON DOWN.

THIS WILL BE QUICK. >> IS THIS BUDGET? TRUST ME, WE GOT TO DO IT. IT IS NOT DO YOU WANT TO DO IT.

>> DO WHAT? IS IT A DIFFERENT ITEM NUMBER.

>> IT IS STILL IN THE BUDGET. >> OKAY I'LL MAKE THIS AS QUICK AS I CAN. THE CONSTABLE WENT TO SCHOOLERY GRIEVANCE LAST WEEK. THREE CONSTABLES DID.

EVERYONE ON ON SALARY GRIEVANCE VOTED THEIR SALARIES BE RAISED TO $100,000 FOR THREADEN STABLES.

>> MAKE THE MOTION. >> NO, ITS AUTOMATIC.

KIM CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE, IF NINE, IF IT IS UNANIMOUS, WE

DON'T GET TO VOTE. >> IT HAS TO BE DONE.

>> I THINK YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING SO WE CAN CHANGE

THE BUDGET FOR IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> MAKE A MOTION ACKNOWLEDGING THE RAISES FOR THE CONSTABLES.

>> CONSTABLES TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.

>> I MAKE A MOTION WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE RAISES BY SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE TO $100,000 FOR CONSTABLES PRESINK 2, 3, AND

4. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> MOTION PASSES. >> THAT WAS QUICK.

IT IS THE QUICKEST ONE TODAY. >> CAN'T BE QUICKER.

>> DEBBY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO THENSSY MY FIRST YEAR IT IS NEW FOR ME.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF JUST TWO THINGS WE REQUEST AN INCREASE

IN. >> I'M SORRY, TELL ME YOUR

NUMBER. >> DEPARTMENT IS 800.

>> OKAY. >> PAGE 746.

>> FOR ELECTRIC RESOURCES WHICH IS 52.10.

>> WE ORIGINALLY HAD SOME NEW DATA BASES.

BUT WE WILL NOT PUT THE NEW DATA BASES ON THERE.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE BY $10,000 BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO DATA BASES THEY'RE NOT A SET PRICE. THEY'RE FLUID.

SO THE MORE MONEY WE ADD TO THEM, THE MORE E RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR USERS. SO THAT'S AUDIO BOOKS AND EBOOKS. THAT'S IN THE HOOPLA AND THE

CLOUD LIBRARY. >> SO YOU REQUESTS $144,000.

IT IS REDUCED. >> IT WAS REDUCED BY 22,015.

I'M NOT SURE WAS MADE THAT NUMBER.

>> YOU WANT TO ADD $10,000 TO THIS ONE?

>> YES, IT IS TO THE $112,000. >> 132 IS OUR NEXT ONE THIS OUR EDUCATION DEMO, WHICH IS 55.20. WE REQUESTED A 18.

LAST YEAR WE HAD 13, BUT WE WERE GIVEN 5,000 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST $2,000. TO BE ADDED TO THE $5000.

>> YOU WANT TO REQUEST $2,000 SO THE TOTAL IS $7000.

>> I WILL ADD $2000, TO $200, 800022.50 INCREASE BY $2,000.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.

>> THE OTHER ONE YOU WANT $10,000.

>> THE NUMBER IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

>> THAT NUMBER THAT IS ON THERE IS BASICALLY MOVING IT DOWN TO

WHAT SHE HAD FOR 2026. >> OKAY.

YOU WANTED MORE RESOURCES THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.

>> OKAY. >> I'VE HEARD.

>> I'LL PUT IT ON THE LIST. MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT ONE. THAT IS NOT OPERATIONS BUT 5210?

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>> RIGHT? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DEBBY.

>> STEVE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> I ONLY HAVE ONE THING.

WE HAVE INITIALLY PUT IN 7110 FOR AT THE REQUESTION OF OF THE LIFE STOCK ASSOCIATION TO PUT IN FOR A NEW SHOW RING AND ADDITIONAL PANELS FOR THEIR LIFE STOCK SHOW.

>> WE INITIALLY BUT IT TO THE COST OF $129,244.

IT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH AND ASKED TO GET THAT BID SPLIT INTO TWO, DIFFERENT ITEMS I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE TWO ITEMS AS SEPARATE EVENTS OR ISSUES FIRST IS THE SHOW ROOM,

WHICH IS $54,118.99. >> $54,118.99.

THE ADDITIONAL PANELS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR ADDITIONAL ANIMALS IS $69,612.18. SO WHENEVER WE WENT TO THE INITIAL VENDOR WITH THAM HE GAIN US A SET AMOUNT.

COMING BACK AND HAVING THEM SPLIT THAT IS ABLE TO REDUCE THE

OVERALL NUMBER ABOUT $5000. >> AND THE RATIONAL?

>> THE ORIGINAL SHOW ROOM I BELIEVE IS PROBABLY OLDER THAN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. IT IS OLDER THAN 25 YEARS.

THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO UPDATE THAT.

THE PANELS ARE FOR ADDITIONAL ANIMALS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN THERE

IN THE PAST. >> THE SHOWS HAVE GROWN.

>> SO, I FOUND SOMEWHERE I'M REDUCING $50,000 FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT THEY DON'T NEED SO I FOUND $50000 FOR THE SHOW RICK I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH

FOR ALL OF THE PAN ELS. >> I AGREE.

I THINK WE CAN DO IT OVER THE ADDITIONAL YEARS.

>> IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT ONE. >> THAT IS $54,118.99.

>> BUT WHAT LINE ITEM? >> 7110.

>> I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THAT BEFORE?

>> THE NUMBER? >> THE NUMBER.

>> THE SHOW RING. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> ON-LINE ITEM 100-040-00.7110 AT $54,200 FOR SHOW RING.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES.

>> BECAUSE YOU SAID WE HAVE THE MONEY.

>> IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TAKE THE OTHER MONEY,

I CAN DO THAT, AS WELL. >> YOU'LL, THAT'S OKAY.

ON-LINE ITEM 100-070-00.5315 REMOVING $50000 FROM EQUIPMENT

AND FURNISHING. >> REMOVING.

>> SO WE'RE REMOVING FROM THISLINE ITEM TO BALANCE OUT

THIS LINE ITEM. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> THE MOTION PASSES. .

>> $50,000 WAS IT SET FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC?

>> EQUIPMENT FURNISHINGS FOR A BUILDING WE'RE NOT MOVING INTO.

>> 070-100-000.5315. SO YOU'RE TAKING OUT.

>> IT IS HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.

>> MOVING THAT 100-070. >> YES.

>> OKAY. ALL GOOD?

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MISS HALEY.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. EYE I AM UP HERE ADVOCATING FOR ALL MIDLAND COUNTY EMPLOYEES I BELIEVE THEY DESERVE MORE THAN 2 PERCENT RAISE AND A POSSIBLE 2 PERCENT RAISE AFTER FIVE, LONG YEARS WITH US. I THINK THEY DESERVE MORE THAN THE 2 PERCENT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM GET 6 PERCENT, BUT 4 PERCENT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE KNOW THAT THE COST OF LIVING IS VERY HIGH.

WE'VE HEARD THE WORK INCREASE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS.

I JUST THINK THAT I'M NOT JUST UP HERE FOR MY LADIES IN MY OFFICE. I THINK ALL MIDLAND COUNTY EMPLOYEES DESERVE A HIGHER RAISE THAN JUST 2 PERCENT.

>> AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. WHAT ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS THAT WE HAVE 43 NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE ADDED.

WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE BUDGET.

>> A VOICE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO COME AND SPEAK

FOR THEMSELVES. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO A I AGREE, BUT WE ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND I KNOW THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE, AT LEAST 4 PERCENT. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO

TAKE CARE OF. >> SOMETIMES THEY GET OVERLOOKED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE SPOKE FOR THEM. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, ALLISON. >> SHE WAS QUICKER THAN YOU.

>> SHE WAS CLOSE. >> EDDIE.

>> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> I JUST HAVE THREE REQUESTS.

RIGHT NOW GOING INTO. >> LET ME GIVE YOU MY NUMBER.

I'M SORRY. >> 030.

I'M LOOKING AT THE SALARY LINE. >> 005.

>> YES. >> I DID PUT IN A REQUEST FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES TO GET CERTAIN PACE INCREASES THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET BUT WANT TO LOOK AT ONE SPECIFIC POSITION ONE OF MY ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS THEY'RE AT 13.5.

I'M REQUESTING TO BE MOVE UP TO 13 SPIN 8.

>> THEY MAKE $42,000. IT IS 55,662.86.

THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR MY, AS WE GO INTO THE NEW YEAR I'M EXPECTED TO BRING THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES UP.

JUST LIKE WE'RE TAKING JANITORIAL IN HOUSE I WANT TO MAKE THAT PERSON A FAST ANALYSIS ADMINISTER TO CHECK OVER 13 FACILITIES NOW WE'LL BE CLEANING ON DAY-TO-DAY BASIS FIVE DAYS A WEEK. MAKING THAT PERSON A LEAD THEY CAN DO THE HIRING OF THE EMPLOYEE.

>> IT IS FAMILY OUTREACH ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH OF

THE SPOT. >> IT IS THE CURRENT ONE 13.5.

>> YOU'RE REQUESTING 13. IS 7, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 13.8. THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 6 PERCENT. 4 PERCENT.

>> IS THAT THE ONLY CHANGES. >> I HAVE THREE TOTAL.

>> ONE MORE. IT WAS MY FAULT.

THIS WAS NOT REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.

IT IS SOMETHING I DID NOT INCLUDE.

THIS IS AT MY REQUEST AGAIN WE'RE ON SALARY TO ADD ANOTHER JANITORIAL STAFF TO MAKE A TOTAL OF FOUR.

THREE WERE APPROVED BUT NEEDING ONE MORE FOR BACKUP.

AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET DAILY OPERATIONS FIVE DAYS A WEEK. THAT POSITION IS 11.1, $38,263.48. BE.

>> BURDEN $22,758.14. THAT MAKES THE TOTAL OF $61,021.62. THAT WILL BE FOR JANITORIAL STAFF. IF THE COURT APPROVE IT'S IN THE NEW YEAR I WILL WORK CREATING A JOB DESCRIPTION.

>> MY ONE THING ON YOURS WHEN WE WENT OVER YOUR BUDGET, WE WERE HAVING TO ADD $213,000 TO JANITORIAL SERVICES, BECAUSE THE NEW JP AND THE NEW JAIL WERE REMOVED.

AND. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> AND THE OLD JPS AND THE OLD JAIL WERE LEFT IN.

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>> LINE ITEM 57.15 IT LOOKS LIKE JP1 AND 3, AND JP2 AND 4 WERE LEFT IN. AND THEN OLD JAIL WERE LE IN FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES BUT THE NEW JAIL, AND THE NEW JP BUILDING

WERE REMOVED. >> CORRECT.

>> THAT IS JUST A VICE VERSA. >> SO THAT INCREASES YOUR BUDGET. BY $213,000 TO REVERSE TA.

>> JUST AS AN F Y WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT I CAN'T ADD POSITION OR INCREASE SALARY TO GET OUR CONTRACT CORRECTLY.

>> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE WHAT WHAT WE DO WOULD BE A THIRD PARTY. EIGHT TO 10 PORTERS TAKING CARE OF ALL OF THESE FAMILY OUTREACHES WE'RE GOING DOWN TO FOUR. THE SCOPE WORK WILL CHANGE.

THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THESE FAMILY OUTREACHES STAY CLEAN AND MAKE SURE THEY STAY STOCKED THEY GO TO ONE FAMILY OUTREACH AND GET DONE WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT FAST ANALYSIS THAT WILL BE CONTROLLED BY OUR

MANAGEMENT TEAM TO OVERSEE IT. >> A COUPLE BUILDINGS.

>> BUT THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT YOUR SEEN BY US.

WE NEED TO ADD THIS CONTRACT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

>> FOR THE NEW JP? >> AND THE JAIL.

>> ONE WAS REMONEYED. ONE WAS REMOVED.

>> WHAT WAS LEFT IN THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXED AND VIDEO VISITATION, THE COURTHOUSE, THE JPS ONE AND THREE.

JP TWO AND FOUR, AND THE SHERIFF QUARTERS.

>> THOSE ARE THE ONES SUPPOSED TO BE LEFT IN.

>> JP ONE AND THREE, THE OLD LOCATION SHOULD BE REMOVED.

>> AND JP TWO AND FOUR SHOULD BE REMOVED AS WELL.

>> ARE THE PEOPLE YOU'RE HIRING FOR ADDITIONAL JANITORIAL.

>> NO, MAM. >> I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU LEFT

MONEY IN THERE. >> WE LEFT THE OLD JPS IN, AND

WE TOOK OUT THE NEW ONE. >> I THINK KIND OF DID IT

BACKWARDS. >> OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO FIX THAT.

>> I WILL MAKE A COUPLE MOTIONS I WILL MAKE THEM QUICK AND GIVE

SOME REASONING. >> I'M TRYING TO REDUCE FROM UTILIZATION ON YOURS. WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND INCREASE THAT $213,000 THAT WE HAVE TO DO, BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT.

SO ON SALARY, EMPLOYEE AND OVERTIME, REDUCE THAT BY $500.

>> $500 OR $500,000? >> JUST $500.

THERE WILL BE TWO $500 AND THEN AN INCREASE.

OUT OF WHICH ARE YOU ON? >> 100-TO 30-0050.20.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE OFFICE SUPPLIES 100-30-305305 REDUCE THAT BY $2,000. SHOP SUPPLIES, 5330.

REDUCE THAT BY $500. 5675 REDUCE THAT BY $5,000 WHICH

IS SHREDDING SERVICES. >> $5000?

>> YES. >> REMOVE IT COMPLETELY.

>> TEMPORARY STAFFING, WHICH IS 5680.

REDUCE THAT BY $1500. MAINTENANCE REDUCE THAT BY

$30,000 FOR TURN STYLES. >> $30,000 BUILDING MAINTENANCE.

>> WHAT'S THE LINE ON THAT? >> 6200.

THEN FOR 6215, EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE REDUCE THAT BY $90,000. AND THEN 6350 TELEPHONE REDUCE THAT BY $2,000. THEN ON 5715, INCREASE IT BY $213,816. TO INCLUDE NEW JUSTICE OF PEACE COURT AND NEW JAIL AND DETENTION CENTER.

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>> SO YOU'RE INCREASING THE NEED FOR $264,000.

>> 213,816. JUST INCREASING IT, BECAUSE THE OTHER AMOUNT FOR ANOTHER JPS WHAT WE EQUATED TO INCREASE IT

BY THAT DOLLAR VALUE. >> NEW JP.

RY MOVING $17,224. AND $32,460 FOR THE NEW JPS.

>> YES, THAT, WILL EQUATE 213,816.

>> THAT TOTAL CORRECT? >> DID WE TOUCH ELEVATOR

CONTRACT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT

>> DID YOU GET EVERYTHING. >> ADD THE $214, DISTRACT THE

$32,460. >> AND ADDING THE REDUCING ALL OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I SAID OUT LOUD.

>> WHICH OTHER ONES? >> I SAID OFFICE SUPPLIES BY DOLLAR 2000. WHICH IS 5305.

>> AND THIS IS PERFECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I CAN WRITE IT OUT. >> I HAVE ALL OF THE ONES BEFORE THEN TO INCREASE IT BY $213,816 TO INCLUDE THE JP COURT AND DETENTION CENTER. ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AFTER?

>> NO. IS THAT YOUR MOTION THEN?

>> YES. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSES? >> THE MOTION PASSES.

>> I DO HAVE ONE MORE. I REQUESTION OFFED TWO VEHICLES.

THEY ARE FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES.

ONE WAS APPROVED IT IS A MINI CARGO VAN TO TAKE EMPLOYS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. DID REQUEST TWO BUT ASK THAT THE COURT IF THERE'S ANY REPURPOSE OF VEHICLE WE CAN USE.

IT IS JUST TO TRANSPORT SUPPLIES.

>> I THINK ONE IS STATIONED AT ONE LIBRARY THE OTHER AT THE OTHER LIBRARY AND THE OTHER IS ROVING?

>> NO, WE ONLY HAVE ONE VEHICLE APPROVED.

>> I KNOW, BUT YOUR STAFF PEOPLE, YOU HAVE THREE STAFF PEOPLE. ONE STATIONED AT THE LIBRARY DOWNTOWN. THE OTHER NORTH OF THE LIBRARY.

AND THE OTHER IS ROVING WITH THE VAN.

SO YOU ONLY NEED ONE VAN? >> WE'RE GOING TO BE BUSY PICKING UP PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT.

>> BUT TWO PEOPLE ARE STATIONED THERE NOT ROVING.

>> THEY ARE NOT STATIONED THREE SIX OR EIGHT HOURS.

>> RIGHT HOW WE HAVE PEOPLE STATIONED AWAY.

WEIR TAKING WHAT WE HAVE STATION AND TAKING AWAY AND NOT ADDING

SOMEONE. >> WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE SIX TO EIGHT HOURS AT THE LIBRARY. WE CREATE A DINNER SCOPE.

OUR PROPERTY IS TO KEEP THE FAMILY OUTREACHES CLEAN, VACUALED CLEAN RESTROOMS THINGS OF THOSE NATION AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BUILDING. RIGHT NOW LIMITING US.

>> WE HAVE A DAY FOR ER. >> THAT IS PROVIDE BY THE THIRD

PARTY. >> YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THE DAY PORT ER THE CONTRACT DOESN'T PROVIDE IT.

>> WE'LL STILL HIT THOSE PLACES WE HAVE 13 PLACES TO HIT WITH THREE EMPLOYEE WAS ONE VEHICLE. I WOULD RAGER HAVE TWO VEHICLES, BOTH STOCKED WITH SUPPLIES AND THEY DIVIDE AND CONQUER TO THOSE

LOCATIONS. >> IF WE FIND MONEY.

>> ALSO TAKE A VEHICLE IF IT IS REPURPOSED THAT THE COUNTY ALREADY OWNS. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> WE'LL SEE HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, EDDIE. >> EDDIE DIDN'T WE CUT SOME STUFF OUT OF THE SHERIFF IMPOUND?

>> I'M SORRY, YES, SIR. THAT'S OUTS OF THE 605 NO.

IT IS OUT OF WE DECREASE DISPENSER OF THE NEW JAIL TO

$13,100. >> LINE 6210.

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COMES OUT TO $13,400 FOR THE NEW JAIL.

WHAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE? >> 6210.

>> I BUDGETED $1000. AFTER RECEIVING THE COST.

>> I DID NOT DO TAONE. LINE ITEM 100-30-00.6210.

INCREASE IT BY $12,000. FOR DETENTION DEGEORGENT.

>> SECOND. >> IS THAT THE MOTION?

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

>> COOPERATESSAL 657010 AS WE DISCUSSION THE SHERIFF OFFICE $1.7 MILLION. THAT WAS REMOVED.

THEN THE PRIVACY FANS AND THE COVERED PARKING STAYED.

>> YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE COVERED PARKING?

>> IS THAT IN OR OUT? >> TOLD ME TO REMOVE IT.

>> YEAH BUT THAT'S IN CAPITAL OUT LAYS.

>> I THINK THE FENCE YOU WANT TO KEEP IN.

>> 167000 TO BE REMOVED. IT IS A 605.710 CAPITAL OUT LAY

BUILDING. >> PRIVACY STAYS.

>> PUBLIC WORKS. 1.7.

>> WHAT WAS THE NUMBER ON THAT. >> 600-

>> 605-01. 605-7010.

>> SHERIFF IMPOUND COVERED PARKING FACILITIES REMOVED.

SHERIFF IMPOUND METAL BUILDING REMOVED.

AND ANIMAL SERVICE CONTRACT. >> I WANT TO SAY THAT'S THE ONLY

IN THIS BUDGET. >> OF 605-007-120.

7120. ON 15?

>> 605-07-120. >> MOVE TO PUBLIC WORKS.

>> YES, CORRECT. >> YES.

THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE. >> AND THEN METAL BUILDING.

THAT'S THE ONE IT WAS $167,000 COVERED STRUCTURES.

SO 605-15-7010. DID YOU GET THE ONES YOU WANT TO

REMOVE? >> THIS ONE REMOVING $167,000 OUT OF 605-15-007-7010 CAPITAL OUT LAYS PUBLIC BUILDING.

>> THEY WERE BOTH MOVES TO PUBLIC WORKS.

>> $167,000 AND THE $1.7 MILLION FOR THE METAL BUILDING.

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>> WHAT IS CAPITAL WORK. >> PUBLIC WORK.

>> 080. >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE ON 600.

>> THEY WERE INITIALLY AND MOVE TO PUBLIC WORKS.

>> AUTHORIZE 100-00. >> THE REPORT COVERED PARKING.

>> WHAT IS THE LOAN ITEM FOR THAT ONE?

WHAT IS THE LINE ITEM. >> 400-00-7010.

>> OKAY REMOVING $176,000 OUT OF 100.

>> REMOVING $167,000 OFF THE 100-008-007101 1 REMOVING IT.

REMOVE IT . >> WHAT ABOUT THE METAL BUILDING

AS WELL? >> THAT IS IT.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> BUT LEAVING THE FENCE.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES

>> I LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME MONEY BACK.

>> THANK GOODNESS. >> THAN SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG.

>> TO BE SHOULDN'T, BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT NOTE WE REQUESTED 29 LAPTOPS BASED ON UT RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN THE WARRANT COUNTRIES BE WENT OUT ON-TOPS WE WERE GIVEN 1.

THAT'S 14 THE WARRANTSIES ARE GOING OUT QUICKLY.

I'M WILLING TO RIDE WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE NOW.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FOUR MONTHS AND I COME BACK AND SAY I NEED TO BUY THREE OR FOUR MORE LAPTOPS.

I DONT WANT TO THINK WE DIDN'T THINK OF IT.

WE THOUGHT OF IT AND THE JUDGE SAID NO.

AND SO, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I'M FINE TO RIDE WITH IT. WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.